Dr Zakir Naik & Altaf Hussain-Same Thought About Partition

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
atensari said:
Technically Allama Iqbal did not used the word Pakistan - The name of the state. He gave the idea of Independent Muslim State, name was think later.
Independent state inside the India.
 

atensari

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Jury said:
atensari said:
Technically Allama Iqbal did not used the word Pakistan - The name of the state. He gave the idea of Independent Muslim State, name was think later.
Independent state inside the India.

This was possible but cunning thinking of Hindu, made Quaid Azam realized Independent state in inside India will not solve the problem, Ghandi statement after accepting Cabnit Mission. "Who will let Pakistan free after 10 years".
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
atensari said:
Jury said:
atensari said:
Technically Allama Iqbal did not used the word Pakistan - The name of the state. He gave the idea of Independent Muslim State, name was think later.
Independent state inside the India.

This was possible but cunning thinking of Hindu, made Quaid Azam realized Independent state in inside India will not solve the problem, Ghandi statement after accepting Cabnit Mission. "Who will let Pakistan free after 10 years".
Yes, but, lot of people were thinking at that time, that,
leaders who are asking for Pakistan as an independent country are cunning.
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
There was no doudt in the minds of true muslims living in India about an independent country"named PAKISTAN". It can be visualized from the Quaid movement committement which generated the spirt of a Muslim home land. It is quite evident from the "23rd March 1940 resolution of pakistan at Maniar Pakistan lahore.
It was created to give the muslims a great gift from ALLAH. As mentioned in Quran, Allah benefiated the muslims to establish their power.
as it is created by Allah, who always saved pakistan from all the evils and enemies like Altaf (agents of hindues) and others.
It will remain and will be the stronghold of the entire muslims of the world by playing a vital role for which Allah created this great country.
 

atensari

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[quote="Jurybut, lot of people were thinking at that time, that,
leaders who are asking for Pakistan as an independent country are cunning.[/quote]

Who are these "lot of people"?
Why they think "Leader who are asking Pakistan are cunning"?
Who were against Pakistan and are against Pakistan?
 

Jury

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
atensari said:
Who are these "lot of people"?
Why they think "Leader who are asking Pakistan are cunning"?
Who were against Pakistan and are against Pakistan?
One of those.
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCCKqUGqEkM[/video]
 

atensari

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Jury said:
atensari said:
Who are these "lot of people"?
Why they think "Leader who are asking Pakistan are cunning"?
Who were against Pakistan and are against Pakistan?
One of those.

One is not Lot, who are the remaining? You don't know or donot want to tell?
 

rahat

Senator (1k+ posts)
At the time of creation of Pakistan the world was looking a change in the political and economical system in all over the world and particularly, in Asia and Africa the struggle and movement for freedom and new socioeconomic relation was in its high spirit. Peoples power in Soviet Union getting strong and struggle in China for people's government was getting successes. In this background the Imperil powers of the world were not in favor in the creation of a new country and they fear it will be a success for the world movements. In this context they tried all their best to create hurdles in the movement of Pakistan. But it was a great vision of Quaid-E- Azam, who with all his hard working made it possible.
The struggle of Pakistan movement was actively participated by the different groups of Muslims in located in isolated parts having different culture and languages. It was clearly announce by the Muslim league about the future of the new federation and its composition. The formula for the peoples living other parts of India was agreed between the concerns powers for a one time migration rights to the peoples who opt it.
It was be also be mentioned that the majority of Urdu speaking groups were located in the other parts on India, which was not declared as a part of Pakistan, such as UP, CP, Bihar etc. They were benefited with the existing infrastructure on that regions and known as the educated class, whole got a considerable share in the government services and private services. There rivals were the majority Hindus who has developed the feeling of their overrepresentation. Their traditional trends were toward religious party's influenced by Saudi way of Islam. It was based on the strict view as they have contradiction with the Hindus on those regions. They were mostly having a great influence of Maulana Madoodadi, Maulana Madni, Maulana Azad etc who were not in favour in an independent country of Pakistan. In this view they were divided on the issue and many of them prefer to India. It was their fear about the survival of the new country.

On the other hand the Karachi in post independence era was the most developed City of the part of India declared as Pakistan. It was equipped with the tools of modern Town Planning and infrastructure for the development. All was contributed by the origin peoples of the city; mainly Parsi, Sindhi Hindus, Christen, Gugarti and other who were form the most part of the population at that time. There was no contradiction between these groups of Karachi and all were living in an atmosphere of brotherhood and were sincerely committed to a peace and respect for each other. The total population of the Karachi was well under half million at the time of independence.
The reason for selecting the Karachi as the capital of new country was the existing infrastructure of the city.

The migration process of 1947 revealed that there was a complete migration in the Punjab and Bangle and a considerable part of Sindhi (Hindus) from Karachi. There was Marginal migration of Urdu speaking peoples from the UP, CP, Bihar. Most of them prefer to the urban Sindh and particularly in Karachi. It is evident from the figure of 1951 record, which indicates the population of Karachi less then a million.

Now lets us consider the traditional cultural and difference in religious approaches of the other peoples of the country. The language difference was a contradiction mostly between Bengalis, Sindhs with the Urdu. The religious approach between the Punjab, Sindh in particular were. In Punjab and Sindh most of the Muslim population followed the traditional Sofism, which more related to the humanity in contradiction to the Urdu speaking majority following the religious approach of Saudia and their affiliated parties.
Their approach was accommodation which they demonstrated toward the immigrants in Punjab and Sindh. But when the circumstances changed then the sense of survivals developed in the deprived classes of the country against the Urdu speaking peoples.
The reasons mostly contributed the policies adopted after the death of Quaid-e-Azam and incapable of leadership of Muslim League.

In 1948 Urdu was instituted as the official national language of Pakistan even though only a pitifully small fraction of Pakistanis spoke the language. In the widely cited 1961 census results, it was reported that Urdu was the mother tongue of a mere 3.7% of all Pakistanis. The protest against the Urdu started in Bangal and the Language Movement began in 1948 and reached its climax in the killing of 21 February 1952, and ended in the adoption of Bangla as one of the state languages of Pakistan.
Since 1952, 21 February has been observed every year to commemorate the martyrs of the Language Movement. With UNESCO adopting a resolution on 17 November 1999 proclaiming 21 February as international mother language day. It is an honour bestowed by the international community on the Language Movement of Bengalis peoples.
It is a historical fact that the foundation of Bangladesh was laid in 1948 by the Urdu Language Bill by the Muslim League 1948.
 

atensari

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Jury said:
Yes, but, lot of people were thinking at that time, that,
leaders who are asking for Pakistan as an independent country are cunning.

"lot of people" only has ONE count [hmmm]
 

samar

Minister (2k+ posts)
Zakir Naik About Pakistan

Islam k so called champion speaking against the creation of only state that was created in the name of Islam:

 

Janbazz

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
zakir naik ko sialkot walon k hawalay kar dena chahiya (butter village walon k pass )
do chaar danday khanay k baad ye theek ho jayega ! :D

ya phir swat kai taliban k hawalay kar do isko , ulta lita kar iski chithrol karain gai woh :P jese os 17 sala bachi ki ki thi :P
 
Zakir is absolutely right.....we are fighting with eachother and its approved you can not create a state on name of religion. Pakistan was created on name of Islam and see urself & ur comments. You are thinking very narrowly and if you think broadly, u will understand what he said
 

sahiL

Senator (1k+ posts)
i guess we need to look at ourselves first before we point fingers at this gr8 scholar who is working for "pure Islam" day n night
apka pata nahi but i love this guy.....the problem is....if u disagree with someone over something then u got to have a "proof".....
so prove him wrong.......
 

Wadaich

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
All the icons for the Muslim Ummah

All the icons for the Muslim Ummah who are a danger to the Dajjali forces are under attack. Innocent people among us succumb to the propa****a of the Yahood-o-Nisaara and start playing their game by defaming the honorable Ummah Icons. But the defaming strategies don't work. Allah has HIS plans. The representatives of evil forces cannot win. The people like Hamid Gull, Zaid Hamid, Dr. Israr, Dr. Zakir etc are under the protection of Allah (SWT). Jo bhi Aasman per thokay ga us ka apna munh......................
 

Truthlover

Councller (250+ posts)
Dr. Zakir has the right to have an opinion about partition even though I think he is completely wrong.
The creation of Pakistan opened the new doors of opertunities for Muslims, which might have never been there in united India, dominated by bigot Hindu majority.
India has almost 150 million Muslims, just name ten known names in any field!
The narrow-minded Hindu state is secular only in papers.
 

abeypk

Citizen
he is self claimed scholor, a person who is feed by zoinists and anti islam, he is there to spread haterd among muslims, he and his family all dramabaz.
 

Chaudhry_1960

Minister (2k+ posts)
Dr. Zakir has the right to have an opinion about partition even though I think he is completely wrong.
The creation of Pakistan opened the new doors of opertunities for Muslims, which might have never been there in united India, dominated by bigot Hindu majority.

Yes, everyone has a right to their opinion. The creation of Pakistan opened new doors of opportunities for only rich muslim feudal, corrupt Muslim bureaucrats, politicians and army but very few opportunities for common middle class and poor muslims which is why Pakistan is today in a state where corrupt politicians can drown hundreds of villages to save their agricultural land with the help of corrupt bureaucrats and easily get away with it while a common man is hardly surviving. No need to talk about corrupt cricketers. Very unfortunate.
 

Night-Hawk

Senator (1k+ posts)
Zaakir Naik sahib has all the right to say that. After all he is an Indian citizen and a patriotic muslim loyal to India. Saray musalman altaf ghaddar ki tarah to nahin hotay keh khaain apnay mulk ka aur balaain dushman mulk ki lain.
 

Truthlover

Councller (250+ posts)
Yes, everyone has a right to their opinion. The creation of Pakistan opened new doors of opportunities for only rich muslim feudal, corrupt Muslim bureaucrats, politicians and army but very few opportunities for common middle class and poor muslims which is why Pakistan is today in a state where corrupt politicians can drown hundreds of villages to save their agricultural land with the help of corrupt bureaucrats and easily get away with it while a common man is hardly surviving. No need to talk about corrupt cricketers. Very unfortunate.

I agree with you that this state has been hijacked by these criminals from the very beginning and yet I am happy that we have a country of our own, where we can live without religious opperession. These leeches can be taken care of by educating the grey masses, by raising their levels of consciousness. Once we rid off these Pakistan will have a glorious future.