For those who are hyping this non-existent COVID-19

tahirkheli74

tahirkheli74

MPA (400+ posts)
Oldwish said:
I agree with you most of the "main stream" doctors and scientists are begging people to stay home. But there are many doctors and scientists " not main stream" suggesting otherwise. They are for herd immunity.
All of them agree on one thing and that's enough people having developed immunity to this virus one way or another. There is a concerning argument of mutations and lockdown facilitate mutations. If this is "true" then forget about the vaccine. What are the possible outcomes? How long can we continue with the lockdown? It will inevitably result in civil unrest in many parts if the world. Coupled with the disease it's going to be a big mess. Promotion of one policy without a question or enough answers is fishy to begin with.
We do have evidence from many places that people are been put on coroca list regardless of the actual cause. CDC announced the same thing "officially" the doctors are told to put corona as probable or possible cause of death only based on few symptoms. We have seen the same thing happening in Pakistan. Bottom line the picture is not black and white and there is much more to the story.
Allah knows the best.
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Beautifully narrated brother....Long live...
 
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Oldwish

Senator (1k+ posts)
Respect said:
Yes herd immunity but still dangerous, i personally thin with info availavle do lockdown and then start opening businesses and schools slowly with precautions in place.

With herd immunity the hospitals could get way overloaded we are still learning about the virus we cannot risk our lives and also others that is what herd immunity will entail.

Yes there is a strong possibility that this virus is man made and the powerful elite has brought this virus.

However Allah know best
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Yes! I agree that's one possible outcome in theory. Lockdown might prevent overburdening of hospitals but that's just a theory so far and with every passing day it's getting weaker and weaker.
Lockdowns are not preventing the spread and so far we are told there are three different strains A,B,C some more potent than the others. Some say its man made and being used as intended and others saying its mutating cause of the lockdown.
Belarus, Sweden and now add New Zealand to the list going for herd immunity and the truth about Pakistan and countries alike never had a lockdown even for one day, official lockdown has restricted the moment and closed the economy but intended purpose of social distancing is just a joke from day one.
Are these sinister people with some evil motives? The results are not much different than other parts of Europe. Virus kicked US and Pakistan at almost the same time but what we have seen so far?Pakistan is way behind in corona cases and deaths despite purposeful distortion of data. Some people say Pakistan is behind cause there is not enough testing. If it's true than why bother with a disease that requires so much attention to be noticed? people are not dropping dead left and right. If without testing it goes unnoticed then let it go.
Some countries have made a choice not to commit a financial suicide and some countries can't afford to commit financial suicide.
Official Guidelines are so nonsensical infact almost comical that people are forced to make their own choices.
Few examples
Basically, you can't leave the house for any reason, but if you have to, then you can.

Masks are useless,. But they will protect you.

Stores are closed, except for the ones that are open.

You should not go to the hospital unless you have to go there.
This virus is deadly but still not too scary, except that sometimes it actually leads to a global disaster. Stay calm.
Everyone needs to stay home, but it's important to go out because sunlight will kill the virus but not if the virus kills you first by walking in the sunlight where you may be exposed to the virus.

The virus has no effect on children except those it has affected or will affect.

You will have many symptoms when you are sick, but you can also get sick without symptoms, have symptoms without being sick, or be contagious without having symptoms.

if you’ve all been locked inside for two months already. You may still have the virus and just not know it yet. You’ll find out. Wait another week. Wasn’t that a week? Might be the next one. Keep waiting.
The virus remains active on different surfaces for two hours, no, four, no, six, no, we didn't say hours, maybe days? But it takes a damp environment. Oh no, not necessarily.
In one hour a sick person can infect ten, so if it falls, all our children were already infected at school before it was closed.

The virus will only disappear if we achieve collective immunity.. but stay inside until the virus disappears...........

Man made or not, makes not much difference as it won't help dealing with the issue at hand. One thing is obvious that we can all agree, you will never ever hear a word in favour of lockdown from someone without food. This is just a bitter reality.
You are for lockdowns, its very obvious you have enough to eat or feed your loved ones.
I know sometimes choices become really difficult. In your mind and words you can even be standing on high moral ground for upholding the lockdown cause you care about every single person on this planet. But your high moral ground can be a death sentence for some.
I am not trying to be judgmental but just giving different perspectives. And definitely Allah SBW knows the best The Knower of all things.
 
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Citizen X

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
This and all other such threads summed up in one sentence.

Pakistani apna manpasand qoumi khel "conspiracy theory" khel te huway.
 
Citizen X

Citizen X

President (40k+ posts)
tahirkheli74 said:
And you better be ignored....Stay ignorant and be happy...
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Please keep your bullshit trapped inside your feeble brain and not let it escape stinking up the entire place.

Conspiracy theories are psychologically comforting. Conspiracy theories seem to provide an explanation that allows people to preserve their own beliefs in uncertain times. People tend to turn to them when they feel powerless.

People who feel alienated from modern society, which is more complex and difficult to navigate in the face of new technology, are more likely to turn to conspiracy theories.

I usually find people of lower IQ, misfits and who are socially awkward fall for conspiracy theories. Example Flat Earthers.

You can't find me one person who is reasonably smart, with basic understanding of science and physics to be a flat earther.

The video is nothing but error of data, once a person dies of AIDS its never mentioned on the death certificated he died of AIDS but rather what actually caused his death, as in the the symptoms.

Similarly the world is under reporting because even the US with the most number of tests done, hasn't tested even 2% of its total population, so in reality there literally could be a billion infected people who are untested as of yet.

Just in the US now people are starting to believe they might already have had Covid and not known it, many might have even died and no one even might have known. Many people reported get really really sick in January.

So yeah you can sit there in your dank basement and cook up all sorts of conspiracy theories. What ever helps you get through these times.
 
tahirkheli74

tahirkheli74

MPA (400+ posts)
Citizen X said:
Please keep your bullshit trapped inside your feeble brain and not let it escape stinking up the entire place.

Conspiracy theories are psychologically comforting. Conspiracy theories seem to provide an explanation that allows people to preserve their own beliefs in uncertain times. People tend to turn to them when they feel powerless.

People who feel alienated from modern society, which is more complex and difficult to navigate in the face of new technology, are more likely to turn to conspiracy theories.

I usually find people of lower IQ, misfits and who are socially awkward fall for conspiracy theories. Example Flat Earthers.

You can't find me one person who is reasonably smart, with basic understanding of science and physics to be a flat earther.

The video is nothing but error of data, once a person dies of AIDS its never mentioned on the death certificated he died of AIDS but rather what actually caused his death, as in the the symptoms.

Similarly the world is under reporting because even the US with the most number of tests done, hasn't tested even 2% of its total population, so in reality there literally could be a billion infected people who are untested as of yet.

Just in the US now people are starting to believe they might already have had Covid and not known it, many might have even died and no one even might have known. Many people reported get really really sick in January.

So yeah you can sit there in your dank basement and cook up all sorts of conspiracy theories. What ever helps you get through these times.
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And you better be ignored....Yet again....stay oblivious, and ignorant....
 
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