Hamid Mir Busted - Working With Tehrik e Taliban Pakistan?Hamid Mir Explanation Added

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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I hope Mir does that and expose all the snakes
 

jalalamardan

Councller (250+ posts)
i think bro he is trying to play the blame game and whos better to attack than governer punjab the weak link .A guilty person's first response is a threat which he is giving in this columns.If he is that much sincer with the people of pak he should expose the snakes irrespective of his prejudice and threats.hope everybody understand his tactic.
 

zazulfi

Citizen
I had read in the peak times of Al-Qaeda (before 9/11) that Hamid Mir visited Osama-Bin-Laden (OBL) twice or thrice and he was official 'Biographer' of OBL. I never read that Hamid Mir denied such news??? Anyone remember??
 

Ammar isb

Councller (250+ posts)
The reported links between media personal and militant organizations are deeply perturbing, in all fairness a journalist in order to report facts has to maintain some kind of liaison but he must not cross that line and loose objectivity.
 
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Murshad Jee

Guest
Aasteen kay saamp...Hamid Meer

حامد میر نے اپنے اس کالم "قلم کمان" میں کہیں یہ نہیں کہا کہ یہ آڈیو ٹیپ نقلی ہے - یا اس آڈیو ٹیپ میں جس شخص کی آواز ہے وہ میں نہیں ہوں
اس سے یہ بات تو واضح ہو جاتی ہے کہ یہ آواز حامد میر کی ہی ہے .
یہ ہی اصل میں ------------ بذات خود ------------ آستین کا سانپ ہے
اور
اگر یہ سچا ہے تو عدالت میں جاتے اور اپنی بے گناہی ثابت کرے
لیکن یہ نہیں جاتے گا
کیونکہ اس کے دل میں چور ہے اور یہ بھی انہیں کی طرح صرف الزام تراشیاں کر یا دھمکیاں دے سکتا ہے
سچ سامنے نہیں لا سکتا
اور یہ یاد رکھئیے کہ
جھوٹ کے پیر نہیں ہوتے
 
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awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
حامد میر نے اپنے اس کالم "قلم کمان" میں کہیں یہ نہیں کہا کہ یہ آڈیو ٹیپ نقلی ہے - یا اس آڈیو ٹیپ میں جس شخص کی آواز ہے وہ میں نہیں ہوں
اس سے یہ بات تو واضح ہو جاتی ہے کہ یہ آواز حامد میر کی ہی ہے .
یہ ہی اصل میں ------------ بذات خود ------------ آستین کا سانپ ہے
اور
اگر یہ سچا ہے تو عدالت میں جاتے اور اپنی بے گناہی ثابت کرے
لیکن یہ نہیں جاتے گا
کیونکہ اس کے دل میں چور ہے اور یہ بھی انہیں کی طرح صرف الزام تراشیاں کر یا دھمکیاں دے سکتا ہے
سچ سامنے نہیں لا سکتا
اور یہ یاد رکھئیے کہ
جھوٹ کے پیر نہیں ہوتے

Jab Zaid Hamid court mein nahi gaya yeh keh ker keh adalat shari nahi hay tau Hamid Mir kyun jai?
 
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Murshad Jee

Guest
Jab Zaid Hamid court mein nahi gaya yeh keh ker keh adalat shari nahi hay tau Hamid Mir kyun jai?

Zaid Hamid baat karta hai Khilafat-e-Rashida ki
agar yeh aasteen ka saamp bhi Khilafat-e-Rashida ki baat karta hai to hamey koi eteraaz nahi.

Aur baqol aik sahib ke is ne Judges ki restoration me wukala ka bohat saath diya tha
to
ab is ko ghabranay ki kia zaroorat hai...............?
 

awan4ever

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Zaid Hamid baat karta hai Khilafat-e-Rashida ki
agar yeh aasteen ka saamp bhi Khilafat-e-Rashida ki baat karta hai to hamey koi eteraaz nahi.

Aur baqol aik sahib ke is ne Judges ki restoration me wukala ka bohat saath diya tha
to
ab is ko ghabranay ki kia zaroorat hai...............?

Ager apkay ya ZH kay khayalat kay sath ham ahangi na ho kisi ke tau kia wo asteen ka saanp ban jata hay?
Jahan tak tape recordings ka masla hay tau ZH per bhe aisa he ilzaam hay. Usko bhe chaheaye keh courts mein ja ker dawa keray.
Yahan ye bhe batla doon keh mujhay Hamid Mir say koi khas raghbat nahi.
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
حامد میر نے اپنے اس کالم "قلم کمان" میں کہیں یہ نہیں کہا کہ یہ آڈیو ٹیپ نقلی ہے - یا اس آڈیو ٹیپ میں جس شخص کی آواز ہے وہ میں نہیں ہوں
اس سے یہ بات تو واضح ہو جاتی ہے کہ یہ آواز حامد میر کی ہی ہے .
یہ ہی اصل میں ------------ بذات خود ------------ آستین کا سانپ ہے
اور
اگر یہ سچا ہے تو عدالت میں جاتے اور اپنی بے گناہی ثابت کرے
لیکن یہ نہیں جاتے گا
کیونکہ اس کے دل میں چور ہے اور یہ بھی انہیں کی طرح صرف الزام تراشیاں کر یا دھمکیاں دے سکتا ہے
سچ سامنے نہیں لا سکتا
اور یہ یاد رکھئیے کہ
جھوٹ کے پیر نہیں ہوتے


yaar in TV walon key haq mein ya khilaf na zyada bahas karo. yeh log sirf apna ullu seedha karna jantey hain. Unhein aap sey ya kissi sey koin muhabbat naheen. Sirf apni job rakhney aur ratingbarhaney fikr hoti hai.

Like I said before, most journalists have contacts with secrets groups for information reasons. sister Yvomme Reddley had contacts with Afghan Talibans, she went to meet and something went wrong and got abducted. Later she was released and she accepted Islam. It happens all the time.
 

Adeel

Founder
He is one of Pakistan's top celebrity news presenters and editors, but Hamid Mir is in a spot of trouble after an audiotape allegedly revealing a conversation between him and a Taliban terrorist has emerged.

The tape purports to be a recording of a phone conversation between the journalist, Hamid Mir, and a Taliban spokesman about the fate of Khalid Khawaja, a former intelligence agent being held by the Taliban.

Mir has vehemently dismissed the tape and interestingly so have the Taliban.

The Geo editor has slammed the tape calling it an attempt by his enemies in the government to malign him. Mir strongly rubbished the authenticity of the tape.

Hamid Mir said, "I never said these things to these people. This is a concocted tape. They took my voice, sampled it and manufactured this conspiracy against me."

Here's an excerpt of the transcript of Hamid Mir's alleged conversation with the Taliban:

When the Taliban terrorist asks Hamid Mir whether he had any news on Khwaja, Mir replies that he was in the custody of a certain Azam Afridi.

The terrorist then enquires whether the men are of the government or ISI.

Hamid Mir in the tape then retorts that Khwaja is not an ISI man but rather a CIA agent who has links with the Taliban leadership.

The terrorist then reaffirms the Taliban connection.

Unidentified Taliban Terrorist: Do you have any report on Khalid Khawaja etc.

Hamid Mir: They say Khalid Khawaja Saab is in custody of one Azam Afridi in Darrakhel.

UM: So, are they men of the government or ISI?

HM: Who?

UM: These, Khalid Khawaja and Colonel Imam.

HM: Khalid Khawaja, according to my opinion, is not an ISI man, rather he is a CIA agent, an American CIA agent and he has links with the Taliban leadership.

UM: Yes, he met with Hakimullah and others when he came here last time.

'Hamid Mir tape fabricated'

Interestingly, Hamid Mir has found a supporter in the Taliban who dismissed the entire controversy as a conspiracy to destroy the Mujahideen's reputation.

"We actively condemn the reliability of this tape since there was no conversation like that between us and Hamid Mir. This is seems to be a conspiracy to destroy the reputation of Mujahideen and the brave people of this country who want to bring truth in front while revealing the dark faces of this nation," statement released by Taliban Media Centre said.

http://www.timesnow.tv/Pak-celebrity-editor-linked-to-terror/articleshow/4345443.cms
 

Fursan

Minister (2k+ posts)
Hamid Mir audio tape

ISLAMABAD: The ripples caused by the emergence of an audio tape on the web last week of an alleged telephone conversation between a prominent Pakistani journalist and a Pakistani Taliban militant has blown into a full-fledged controversy, with the journalist and television anchor now completely denying his involvement and many others calling for a high-level investigation to establish truth.

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect...-page/Anchor-claims-damning-tape-doctored-950


 

bkaalon

Citizen
Hamid Mir is a thug, his EGO has far surpassed his worth... Moreover, he is the real snake and while all those thousands of kids and women died due to the moulvi bombing machines...this little terrorist appeaser is in the background passing information to the Taliban. I was shocked to hear Mir talk to the other guy like they were pals....Hamid Mir is a perfect candidate for TREASON!!!!
 

gazoomartian

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Hamid Mir is a thug, his EGO has far surpassed his worth... Moreover, he is the real snake and while all those thousands of kids and women died due to the moulvi bombing machines...this little terrorist appeaser is in the background passing information to the Taliban. I was shocked to hear Mir talk to the other guy like they were pals....Hamid Mir is a perfect candidate for TREASON!!!!

wah wah wah :24: :24: loved it. do you mind if i make use if this terminology?
 

bkaalon

Citizen
How about we gather these Monkeys...moulvis, political parties, their jayals, CJ/Courts, lawyers and Hamid Mir types, put'em in an underground nuclear bunker and throw a low yield nuke inside it. ...nuke these mothers! After that, BAN all political parties.
 

ajnabi

Citizen
قتل کا مقدمہ صحافی حامد میر کے خلاف

صحافی کے خلاف قتل کے مقدمے کی دھمکی

اعجاز مہر
بی بی سی اردو ڈاٹ کام، اسلام آباد


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ایشین ٹائیگر نامی شدت پسند گروپ کے ہاتھوں مبینہ طور پر مارے جانے والے آئی ایس آئی کے سابق اہلکار خالد خواجہ کے صاحبزادے اسامہ خالد نے کہا ہے کہ وہ اپنے والد کے قتل کا مقدمہ صحافی حامد میر کے خلاف درج کرا رہے ہیں۔



انہوں نے نامعلوم مقام سے بی بی سی کے ساتھ فون پر بات کرتے ہوئے دعویٰ کیا کہ حامد میر کی جس شخص سے بات چیت کا ٹیپ سامنے آیا ہے ان کا اصل نام عثمان پنجابی ہے اور وہ مختلف صحافیوں سے محمد عمر بن کر بات کرتے رہے ہیں۔

کلِک ڈیلی ٹائمز کے مدیر متنازع ٹیپ شائع کرنے کا دفاع کرتے ہیں

ان کے مطابق جب ان کے والد خالد خواجہ وزیرستان گئے تو عثمان پنجابی ان کے گائیڈ یا رہنما بنے اور ان کے ساتھ ان کی اکثر بات چیت ہوتی رہی اس لیے وہ ان کی آواز پہچانتے ہیں۔

لیکن مقامی ٹی وی کے اینکر صحافی حامد میر کا کہنا ہے کہ انہوں نے خالد خواجہ کے بارے میں کسی شدت پسند سے کوئی بات نہیں کی۔ انہوں نے الزام لگایا کہ حکومت نے جدید مشینری کی مدد سے جعلسازی کے ساتھ ان کی گفتگو کا ٹیپ تیار کیا ہے۔

جبکہ مقتول خالد خواجہ کے صاحبزادے اسامہ خالد حامد میر کے موقف کو مسترد کرتے ہوئے کہتے ہیں کہ ٹیپ اصل ہے اور وہ اس کو عدالت میں درست ثابت کریں گے۔ آپ حامد میر کا دو مئی کو شائع ہونے والا مضمون پڑھ لیں۔ تھوڑی بہت باتیں آگے پیچھے ہیں باقی وہی باتیں ہیں جو ٹیپ میں ہیں۔ انہوں نے شدت پسندوں کو میرے والد کو قتل کرنے کے لیے اکسایا ہے اور ہم وکیلوں سے مشاورت کر رہے ہیں اور جلد ٹھوس شواہد کے ساتھ مقدمہ درج کروائیں گے۔

حامد میر کی مبینہ گفتگو کے ٹیپ کا متن ڈیلی ٹائمز نامی اخبار نے نمایاں طور پر شائع کیا اور اس اخبار کے ٹی وی چینل بزنس پلس نے یہ ٹیپ نشر بھی کیا۔ جس پر صحافی حامد میر نے متعلقہ اخبار اور ٹی وی چینل کی انتظامیہ کو پچیس کروڑ روپے کے ہرجانے کا نوٹس جاری کیا۔

ڈیلی ٹائمز کے مدیر راشد رحمان نے متنازع کہانی شائع کرنے کے اپنے فیصلے کا دفاع کرتے ہوئے کہا ہے کہ کہانی انہوں نے خود نہیں بنائی اور وہ اپنے موقف پر قائم ہیں۔

انہوں نے کہا کہ ہم نے موقف اختیار کیا ہے کہ کم از کم اس پر تحقیقات ہونی چاہیئں اور اگر اس میں کوئی سچ ہے تو تحقیقات ہونی چاہیئں اور قانون کے تقاضے پورے ہونے چاہیئں۔

ادھر صحافی حامد میر کے آجر جنگ گروپ نے بھی ان کے بارے میں تحقیقات شروع کرنے کا اعلان کیا ہے۔ جیو ٹی وی کے سینئر اہلکار اور تحقیقاتی کمیٹی کے رکن نے بی بی سی کو بتایا کہ کمیٹی نے حامد میر کا بیان ریکارڈ کیا ہے جس میں انہوں نے متعلقہ ٹیپ کو جعلی قرار دیا ہے۔ جیو کے اعلیٰ اہلکار نے بتایا کہ وہ اس بارے میں تفصیلی تحقیقات کر رہے ہیں۔

واضح رہے کہ مقتول خالد خواجہ پاکستان ائر فورس کی ملازمت کے دوران خفیہ ادارے آئی ایس آئی میں کام کرتے رہے اور ریٹائرمنٹ کے بعد انہوں نے انسانی حقوق کی تنظیم بنائی۔ اس تنظیم کی زیادہ تر توجہ مذہبی شدت پسندی کے شبہے میں لاپتہ ہونے والے افراد کی بازیابی پر رہا۔

رواں سال مارچ میں ایک سابق کرنل مسٹر امام اور ایک پاکستانی نژاد برطانوی صحافی اسد قریشی کے ہمراہ وہ جنگ زدہ قبائلی علاقے وزیرستان گئے۔ جہاں انہیں ایشین ٹائگر کے نام سے پہلی بار سامنے آنے والے شدت پسندوں کے ایک گروپ نے یرغمال بنا لیا۔ متعلقہ گروہ نے تیس اپریل کو خالد خواجہ کو جاسوسی کے الزام میں قتل کر دیا۔ باقی دونوں یرغمالیوں کے متعلق یہ تو کہا جا رہا ہے کہ وہ زندہ ہیں لیکن انہیں تاحال رہا نہیں گیا۔
 

adslpxp2

MPA (400+ posts)
I found this argument in one of the blogs and I support this argument. (These are not my words)

Hamid Mir’s tape makes the following assertions:
Khalid Khawaja is a CIA agent who was trying to infiltrate the Taliban and start direct negotiations with them. Colonel Imam went along with Kahlid Khawaja.
Mr. Hamid Mir asks the person on the other end of the call–what are Khalid Khawaja’s connections with Mansur Ejaz who is a CIA agent and whose father stole Pakistani Nuclear secrets and took them to America.
Abdul Rehman Kennedy’s son Karim was in CMH Rawalpindi. Kareem’s mother and Abdul Rehman al-Kennedy’s wife went to see an injured person in the hospital in Rawalpindi and was arrested because she had a camera and tried to force the person to confess to something. When she returned to Canada–she admitted that she had been working for the CIA.
Hamid Mir and Conspiracy Theorists By Abdullah Muntazir
Conspiracy theorists found another ‘evidence’ to play with. This time they got hold of an audio tape of Hamid Mir in which he is talking to a Taliban figure. Some websites say the person is No. 2 of Hakeemullah Mehsood and the others say he is a Punjabi Taliban of TTP. In the audio tape, Hamid Mir shares his background knowledge of Khalid Khawaja, who was murdered mysteriously two weeks ago. Conspiracy theorists are crying that Hamid Mir is a secret Taliban and he is anti-Pakistan. Moreover, some pro-Pakistan people allege that he instigated Taliban to kill Khalid Khawaja. They say that he has a role in his murder by providing negative information about Khalid Khawaja.
I listened the audio carefully but it proves patriotism of Hamid. He speaks against CIA and Qadyanis. He says that he has no problem if Taliban attack NATO supply. He speaks against Khalid Khawaja because of his disputed track- record. Khalid Khawaja was alive when Hamid Mir was accusing him. I do not think he ever thought that Taliban will kill him otherwise he would have never talked in this manner.
People who blame Hamid Mir forget this fact that he is not a preacher or lecture delivering personality. He is a journalist and he needs to keep in touch with everyone including Taliban and Al-Qaeda. Without building trust, he can never get insight of the ongoing situation of militancy. Due to his adventurous nature and personality, he endangered himself at many occasions. He got interview of Osama bin Laden and that was a ‘scoop’ in journalistic history of Pakistan. His fellow journalists in Pakistan could not swallow this fact that a ‘young guy’ can come on centre stage of the world with such a big ‘scoop’. Jealousy barred many intellectuals to accept this interview as a truth. They still claim that it was fake interview but Osama bin Laden or Al-Qaeda never denied the existence of this interview. If it was a fake interview then it was easy for Al-Qaeda to issue a statement but they did not do so. This interview brought two different things for Hamid Mir. At international level his profile jumped many folds while at domestic level he earned huge jealousy and opposition. Conspiracy theorists termed him a CIA agent who wanted to legitimize U.S. invasion of Afghanistan. These accusations still follow him.
Now once again he is facing the wrath of conspiracy theorists. They are searching his role in murder of Khalid Khawaja but forget that Khawaja was not kidnapped on his instructions. This audio too shows that the alleged Taliban figure is also not fully aware of whereabouts of Khalid Khawaja. He asks Hamid Mir about Khawaja. It is also not confirmed that TTP killed him. There was a perception that he was killed by Black Water. For me Hamid Mir was trying to dig out whether Khalid Khawaja was kidnapped by Taliban or not but the Taliban figure in the audio seems smart enough and he did not show any hint that KK was kidnapped by TTP.
Who killed Khalid Khawaja? Taliba, Black Water, CIA, or ISI? I cannot say anything for sure. There are probabilities and we can assign weights to each probability, which may lead us to a better conclusion. Moreover, this conclusion may help us to judge the accusations that Hamid Mir has a role in his murder.
Why Taliban should have killed him? For the revenge of Lal Masjid? Then why 3 years late. He was not living in a fortress. It was very easy to eliminate him two years ago. If Taliban killed him, they got nothing but fulfilled their revenge. Are they so simple people that they will kidnap him, make it a media event, and then suddenly kill him to earn bad reputation among Islamic circles?
Can ISI kill him? Was he working against interest of Pakistan? Was he an under-cover CIA agent? We have no proof but assume he was anti Pakistan then why it took ISI years to conclude he was an anti Pakistan agent who needs to be killed? What was the benefit of his killing to ISI at this particular moment? Was he involved in a big conspiracy? Or he indirectly helped ISI by filing a petition against extradition of Taliban commander Mullah Brother? It is believed that ISI do not want to hand Mullah Brother over to CIA. If it’s true then what they got by killing Khalid Khawaja?
Can Black Water, on the instructions of CIA, kill Khalid Khawaja? For me CIA is the biggest beneficiary of his murder. Within two weeks of his murder, the Lahore High Court has thrown away the petition, which meant to bar the government from extradition of Taliban Commanders. The judge said that the petitioner is no more alive and if anyone else is interested, he should file a fresh petition. Nevertheless, keeping in mind Khalid Khawaja’s fat no one so far has dared to file a new petition. Now CIA is in a position to press Pakistan to hand Mullah Brother over to Afghanistan or U.S.
People who blame Hamid Mir for his alleged role in the murder of Khalid Khawaja, in fact they are giving Black Water and CIA a clean chit in this case. The audio at no point prove that KK was in custody of TTP then how we can blame Hamid Mir for his role in the murder.