Javed Ahmad Ghamdi Threads - Collection

[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

@All Ghamidi Followers

What Kind of "LOGIC" AND "COMMON SENSE" IS THIS.

This Article on HomoSexuality Published in Monthly Renaissance ( Chief Editor Javaid Ahmed Ghamidi)

http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187


سوال، ہم جنس پرستی ایک اختیاری عمل ہے یا فطریَ

جواب۔ ( داڑھی والے) تو یہی کہیں گے یہ ایک مسخ شدہ ذہنیت اور اوباش معاشرے کی پیداوار
ہے لیکن میں اس بحث میں اس نظریئے کا حامل ہوں کہ یہ ایک فطری عمل ہے
اللہ نے مختلف اقسام کی متبادل اشیا کو پیدا کیا ہے، مختلف مزاج اور رجحانات کی
حامل مخلوق کو پیدا کیا ، اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

IF you still think you can listen to him then please go ahead...

 

[incognito]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

@All Ghamidi Followers

What Kind of "LOGIC" AND "COMMON SENSE" IS THIS.

This Article on HomoSexuality Published in Monthly Renaissance ( Chief Editor Javaid Ahmed Ghamidi)

http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187


سوال، ہم جنس پرستی ایک اختیاری عمل ہے یا فطریَ

جواب۔ ( داڑھی والے) تو یہی کہیں گے یہ ایک مسخ شدہ ذہنیت اور اوباش معاشرے کی پیداوار
ہے لیکن میں اس بحث میں اس نظریئے کا حامل ہوں کہ یہ ایک فطری عمل ہے
اللہ نے مختلف اقسام کی متبادل اشیا کو پیدا کیا ہے، مختلف مزاج اور رجحانات کی
حامل مخلوق کو پیدا کیا ، اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

IF you still think you can listen to him then please go ahead...

Thank you for mentioning the reference in your reply, author also states other questions:

1. Question: Is same gender attraction a choice, or alternatively, is it a natural phenomenon?,
   
2. Question: Regardless of the nature versus nurture Debate, can such a condition be cured?
   
3. Question: What might be the alternative approach?.

As matter of fact article is rather informative and all the talk and debate, isn't all matter of science and opinions.

Please read article in full you may find it very interesting.
http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187


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[/FONT]Note: AuthorJunaid bin Jahangirnever states its Halal or it should be allowed or practiced.

 

[siasihero]

Why Prostitution and Homo Sexuality is Haram in Islam?

Why Prostitution and Homo Sexuality is Haram in Islam?

@All Ghamidi Followers
What kind oft of "LOGIC" AND "COMMON SENSE" IS THIS.
This Article on HomoSexuality Published in Monthly Renaissance Editor Junaid bin Jahangir (Chief Editor Javaid Ahmed Ghamidi)

http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187

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If you still think you can listen to him and please go ahead...

One sister asked very brave question with Mr Javed Ahmed Ghamidi regarding Prostitution and Homosexuality. A must see answer by Mr Ghamidi.

 

[TruPakistani]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

@All Ghamidi Followers

What Kind of "LOGIC" AND "COMMON SENSE" IS THIS.

This Article on HomoSexuality Published in Monthly Renaissance ( Chief Editor Javaid Ahmed Ghamidi)

http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187


سوال، ہم جنس پرستی ایک اختیاری عمل ہے یا فطریَ

جواب۔ ( داڑھی والے) تو یہی کہیں گے یہ ایک مسخ شدہ ذہنیت اور اوباش معاشرے کی پیداوار
ہے لیکن میں اس بحث میں اس نظریئے کا حامل ہوں کہ یہ ایک فطری عمل ہے
اللہ نے مختلف اقسام کی متبادل اشیا کو پیدا کیا ہے، مختلف مزاج اور رجحانات کی
حامل مخلوق کو پیدا کیا ، اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

IF you still think you can listen to him then please go ahead...

وَلُوطًا إِذْ قَالَ لِقَوْمِهِ أَتَأْتُونَ الْفَاحِشَةَ مَا سَبَقَكُمْ بِهَا مِنْ أَحَدٍ مِنَ الْعَالَمِينَ
سورة الاٴعرَاف:080
اور جب ہم نے لوط کو پیغمبر بنا کر بھیجا تو اس وقت انہوں نے اپنی قوم سے کہا تم ایسی بےحیائی کا کام کیوں کرتے ہو کہ تم سے پہلے اہل عالم میں سے کسی نے اس طرح کا کام نہیں کیا؟


وَمَا كَانَ جَوَابَ قَوْمِهِ إِلَّا أَنْ قَالُوا أَخْرِجُوهُمْ مِنْ قَرْيَتِكُمْ ۖ إِنَّهُمْ أُنَاسٌ يَتَطَهَّرُونَ
سورة الاٴعرَاف:082
تو ان سے اس کا جواب کچھ نہ بن پڑا بولے سو یہ بولے کہ لوط اور ان کے گھر والوں کو گاؤں سے نکال دو کہ یہ لوگ پاک بننا چاہتے ہیں


وَجَاءَهُ قَوْمُهُ يُهْرَعُونَ إِلَيْهِ وَمِنْ قَبْلُ كَانُوا يَعْمَلُونَ السَّيِّئَاتِ ۚ قَالَ يَا قَوْمِ هَؤُلَاءِ بَنَاتِي هُنَّ أَطْهَرُ لَكُمْ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَلَا تُخْزُونِ فِي ضَيْفِي ۖ أَلَيْسَ مِنْكُمْ رَجُلٌ رَشِيدٌ
سورة هُود:078
اور لوط کی قوم کے لوگ ان کے پاس بےتحاشا دوڑتے ہوئے آۓ۔ اور یہ لوگ پہلے ہی سے فعل شنیع کیا کرتے تھے۔ لوط نے کہا کہ اے قوم ! (جو) میری (قوم کی) لڑکیاں ہیں یہ تمہارے لئے (جائز اور) پاک ہیں تو خدا سے ڈرو اور میرے مہمانوں کے (بارے) میں میری آبرو نہ کرو۔ کیا تم میں کوئی بھی شائستہ آدمی نہیں؟



قَالُوا يَا لُوطُ إِنَّا رُسُلُ رَبِّكَ لَنْ يَصِلُوا إِلَيْكَ ۖ فَأَسْرِ بِأَهْلِكَ بِقِطْعٍ مِنَ اللَّيْلِ وَلَا يَلْتَفِتْ مِنْكُمْ أَحَدٌ إِلَّا امْرَأَتَكَ ۖ إِنَّهُ مُصِيبُهَا مَا أَصَابَهُمْ ۚ إِنَّ مَوْعِدَهُمُ الصُّبْحُ ۚ أَلَيْسَ الصُّبْحُ بِقَرِيبٍ
سورة هُود:081
فرشتوں نے کہا لوط! ہم تمہارے پروردگار کے فرشتے ہیں یہ لوگ ہرگز تم تک نہیں پہنچ سکیں گے تو کچھ رات رہے سہے اپنے گھر والوں کو لیکر چل دو۔ اور تم میں سے کوئی شخص پیچھے پھر کر نا دیکھے۔ مگر تمہاری بیوی کی جو آفت تم پر پڑنے والی ہے وہی اس پر پڑے گی۔ ان سے (عذاب کے) وعدے کا وقت صبح ہے۔ اور کیا صبح کچھ دور ہے؟



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[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

Thank you for mentioning the reference in your reply, author also states other questions:

1. Question: Is same gender attraction a choice, or alternatively, is it a natural phenomenon?,
   
2. Question: Regardless of the nature versus nurture Debate, can such a condition be cured?
   
3. Question: What might be the alternative approach?.

As matter of fact article is rather informative and all the talk and debate, isn't all matter of science and opinions.

Please read article in full you may find it very interesting.
http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187




Note: AuthorJunaid bin Jahangirnever states its Halal or it should be allowed or practiced.

Dear,

My Only Objections is that, When You Start Using your Brains in Deen-Kamil , you would end up in losing Common-Sense...
Dont' you see what author is trying to Explain..

اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

It Means If Someone "HASN'T EXPERIENCE" homosexuality... He Can't Condemn Those Who Do this....

What Kind of Nonsense is this ??

moroever He says, it is Natural Act... Is he Insane ??? Even Dogs and Pigs have a Pair......

 

[Wadaich]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

@All Ghamidi Followers

What Kind of "LOGIC" AND "COMMON SENSE" IS THIS.

This Article on HomoSexuality Published in Monthly Renaissance ( Chief Editor Javaid Ahmed Ghamidi)

http://www.monthly-renaissance.com/issue/content.aspx?id=187


سوال، ہم جنس پرستی ایک اختیاری عمل ہے یا فطریَ

جواب۔ ( داڑھی والے) تو یہی کہیں گے یہ ایک مسخ شدہ ذہنیت اور اوباش معاشرے کی پیداوار
ہے لیکن میں اس بحث میں اس نظریئے کا حامل ہوں کہ یہ ایک فطری عمل ہے
اللہ نے مختلف اقسام کی متبادل اشیا کو پیدا کیا ہے، مختلف مزاج اور رجحانات کی
حامل مخلوق کو پیدا کیا ، اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

IF you still think you can listen to him then please go ahead...

:jazak: May Allah (SWT) bless U for exposing a false flag scholar.

 

[funkymonk]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

actually you are incorrect ...
Homosexuality, how disgusting it may be, occurs in animals too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Dear,

My Only Objections is that, When You Start Using your Brains in Deen-Kamil , you would end up in losing Common-Sense...
Dont' you see what author is trying to Explain..

اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

It Means If Someone "HASN'T EXPERIENCE" homosexuality... He Can't Condemn Those Who Do this....

What Kind of Nonsense is this ??

moroever He says, it is Natural Act... Is he Insane ??? Even Dogs and Pigs have a Pair......

 

[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

actually you are incorrect ...
Homosexuality, how disgusting it may be, occurs in animals too

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

Guess what, The Author of this Article is also gay...

:lol::lol:

[MENTION=10641]wadaich[/MENTION],
[MENTION=17022]SaadKnight[/MENTION],
[MENTION=18476]maksyed[/MENTION]

 

[maksyed]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

Guess what, The Author of this Article is also gay...

:lol::lol:

@wadaich ,
@SaadKnight ,
@maksyed

nut....

برای کورشب وروزیکی است​

 

[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

nut....

برای کورشب وروزیکی است​

dear i coudn't understand that, my farsi is weak :(

 

[maksyed]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

dear i coudn't understand that, my farsi is weak :(

I meant nuts (Gays) ..... the proverb is best define the homosexual goons cz they are blind infact & everything is correct for them .....

اندھے کودن رات برابر​

 

[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

I meant nuts (Gays) ..... the proverb is best define the homosexual goons cz they are blind infact & everything is correct for them .....

اندھے کودن رات برابر​

Thanks...

Jazakallah

 

[funkymonk]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

actually I saw video on national geographic too where 2 male elephants were having their way with it like Musharraf and Aslam Sukhera ...
nonetheless .. it seems more like a natural process to me ..

Guess what, The Author of this Article is also gay...

:lol::lol:

@wadaich ,
@SaadKnight ,
@maksyed

 

[freshnkool]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

Dear,

My Only Objections is that, When You Start Using your Brains in Deen-Kamil , you would end up in losing Common-Sense...
Dont' you see what author is trying to Explain..

اور پھر ایسا شخص ہم جنس پرستی پر کیسا فیصلہ دے سکتا
ہے جسنیں زندگی میں ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ نا کیا ہو۔
ہم کیسے اسیے لوگوں کو جو ہم جنس پرستی کا تجربہ کرتے ہیں بیمار
اور مسخ طبیعت کا حامل قرار دے سکتے ہیں۔۔۔۔

It Means If Someone "HASN'T EXPERIENCE" homosexuality... He Can't Condemn Those Who Do this....

What Kind of Nonsense is this ??

moroever He says, it is Natural Act... Is he Insane ??? Even Dogs and Pigs have a Pair......

khud khuda kaa khof karoo yara jhot or dushmani main kion andy hoo jaty hoo ???


he did not say it because he did not write that article that article which link is posted go and check its written by somebody else not by javed gamdi

but here motly people saying OH HE SAYS , HE SAYS , HE SAYS

now real question is if javed ghamdi is editor of that magzine in which that article was published he should not have allowed that article to be published in it.

if you say it like this then i agree with you. (in a news paper its not the editor who writes everything different people write but its duty of the editor to keep close eye on the material so that wrong things do not get published in his or her newspaper)

but that does not mean the editor wrote it please again go and check the article



or wesy bhee hum loog itny andhy ho jaty hain dushmi main k dory logon per bhotan lagaty hain or woo bateen un say mansoob karty hain joo unhoon ny kahi he nahi hotin. so kindly do proper research before putting bhotan on someone. javed ghamdi never said what people are blaming him. that article was written by some body else and that persons name is written on the top of the article.

but in my view Ghamdi sahib should not have allowed that article to be published (but still its possible that that article was published without his knowledge so only Allah knows better who is the best judge and knows everything)

 

[AbuOkasha]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

khud khuda kaa khof karoo yara jhot or dushmani main kion andy hoo jaty hoo ???


he did not say it because he did not write that article that article which link is posted go and check its written by somebody else not by javed gamdi

but here motly people saying OH HE SAYS , HE SAYS , HE SAYS

now real question is if javed ghamdi is editor of that magzine in which that article was published he should not have allowed that article to be published in it.

if you say it like this then i agree with you. (in a news paper its not the editor who writes everything different people write but its duty of the editor to keep close eye on the material so that wrong things do not get published in his or her newspaper)

but that does not mean the editor wrote it please again go and check the article



or wesy bhee hum loog itny andhy ho jaty hain dushmi main k dory logon per bhotan lagaty hain or woo bateen un say mansoob karty hain joo unhoon ny kahi he nahi hotin. so kindly do proper research before putting bhotan on someone. javed ghamdi never said what people are blaming him. that article was written by some body else and that persons name is written on the top of the article.

but in my view Ghamdi sahib should not have allowed that article to be published (but still its possible that that article was published without his knowledge so only Allah knows better who is the best judge and knows everything)

I didnt say he wrote that himself, that's why i shared the link but it is published in his magizne .

He is a Chief Editor How Could he Approve Such NonSense Stuff ?? and there's nothing like

ایڈیٹر کا مراسلہ نگار کی رائے سے متفق ہونا ضروری نہیں

No Disclaimer...........

 

[incognito]

Re: Kia Islam Talwar se Phela hai? Javed Ghamdi

I didnt say he wrote that himself, that's why i shared the link but it is published in his magizne .

He is a Chief Editor How Could he Approve Such NonSense Stuff ?? and there's nothing like

ایڈیٹر کا مراسلہ نگار کی رائے سے متفق ہونا ضروری نہیں

No Disclaimer...........

Watch Movie Bol, very interesting

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQhI34Kg42A


Read full in English, it is no good interpretation.

 

[samar]

Re: Is Ghamdi a False Flag Islamic Scholar

On Social Front Marvi Sarmad, On Mind Programming likes of Najam Sethi and on Islamic Front False Flag Ghamdi? Is Ghamdi really a false flag Scholar?

on mind programming we have fitnasss like zaid hamid........... khalifa of yousaf kazzab.........


we at the present state are not due to people like that of ghamdi, but people like that of zaid hamid.........who play with our emotions rather than reason..........

ghamdi is controversial but is not repeat not a follower of a false prophet like zaid hamid...........

ghamdi speaks with reason you can dis agree with him with reason his followers are not due to any emotional lectures and baseless speculations and moreover his followers are not brainless creatures like that of zaid hamid.........

its a great surprize that you find ghamdi he false flag scholar but you cannot see zaid hamid (with zero religious knowledge+follower of a kazzab+pithooo of agencies).............

abb wo hadyt bhool gaee k kisi musalamn ko kafir kaho ore vo kafir na hoo to ........................phir kia hota he?????????

ya sirf vo vahan use krtey ho jahan zaid hamid k difa krna mushkil ho jaey .???????????

come up with a thread about yousaf kazzab and his relation with zaid kazzab...............

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: Is Ghamdi a False Flag Islamic Scholar

yeh ghamidi dua dey muharaf ko jo isay tamgha de gaya hai ALIM honay ka.warna kon iss ko janta thaa.aur waisay b ALIM HONA AUR ALIM PEDA kerna yeh 2 alag batay hain. YEH ALIM PEDA kia huwa hai.

even dont write islamic scholar with his name.

Bros, it is sheitan's network in Pakistan. Forget about Ghamdi, ARY writes doctor in front of the name of fake Aamir Liaquat who never been to any UNI. And also write Islamic scholar and Alim in descriptions of him.

If Aamir could be a scholar and Alim any tom dick and harry can be. Ghamdi is in the queue of Tom, Dick and Harry. Waste of time and space.

 

[crankthskunk]

Re: Is Ghamdi a False Flag Islamic Scholar

As far as part of Quran and ahadith related to deen/ sharia (Ahkam, halal, haram, what to do and how to do, mode of worship) are clear and bright than sunlight and deen has been completed for us. (No addition no subtraction). If someone is trying to change it against established rules given in Quran and Sahih Ahadith then he is clearly following shaytan. May Allah S.W.T protect us from the path of shaytan.

Ameen

Brother who are you trying to convince? Mughal1 says after following the teachings of Kazab's like Pervaiz and in the past Mirza, "Jins" and "Angels" are not a reality and a "Creation" of Allah SWT. They are rather forces of nature. Which makes him denier of one of the must have beliefs of deen-e-Islam.

For him, when Quran Decrees, Allah SWT created Jin o Ins, then Ins are physical realities but Jins are not.
When Allah SWT Decreed He SWT created Ins from clay, for him they are physical realities but when in the same verse Quran decreed Jins are made of smokeless fire, this is not a fact, but just a metaphor for forces of nature. :lol::lol::lol:

And he calls himself rational.[hilar][hilar]

 

[zeyafa]

Re: Is Ghamdi a False Flag Islamic Scholar

Bros, it is sheitan's network in Pakistan. Forget about Ghamdi, ARY writes doctor in front of the name of fake Aamir Liaquat who never been to any UNI. And also write Islamic scholar and Alim in descriptions of him.

If Aamir could be a scholar and Alim any tom dick and harry can be. Ghamdi is in the queue of Tom, Dick and Harry. Waste of time and space.

Ghamidi fake scolar? here it is his CV http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Ahmad_Ghamidi


on mind programming we have fitnasss like zaid hamid........... khalifa of yousaf kazzab.........


we at the present state are not due to people like that of ghamdi, but people like that of zaid hamid.........who play with our emotions rather than reason..........

ghamdi is controversial but is not repeat not a follower of a false prophet like zaid hamid...........

ghamdi speaks with reason you can dis agree with him with reason his followers are not due to any emotional lectures and baseless speculations and moreover his followers are not brainless creatures like that of zaid hamid.........

its a great surprize that you find ghamdi he false flag scholar but you cannot see zaid hamid (with zero religious knowledge+follower of a kazzab+pithooo of agencies).............

abb wo hadyt bhool gaee k kisi musalamn ko kafir kaho ore vo kafir na hoo to ........................phir kia hota he?????????

ya sirf vo vahan use krtey ho jahan zaid hamid k difa krna mushkil ho jaey .???????????

come up with a thread about yousaf kazzab and his relation with zaid kazzab...............

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"Mohammed was able to convert one Jewish clergy[man] with his word," Javed Ahmed Ghamidi said. "And Jesus -- we all know what the Jewish clergy thought of him. So I surely don't have a chance of converting any of the ulema. The people -- they are my real target. Because, whatever they might think,at least I know they listen."