Lahore renames Shadman Chowk to Bhagat Singh Chowk ...

sama.aamir1

Councller (250+ posts)
Re: Lahore renames Bhagat Singh Chowk ... Congrats to all pakistanis

well then make me understand coz i think we have our own heroes and their right is first then indian heroes .. hope you understand the importance of your own heroes...
dear...you are too much emotional count me your heroes first .. dear legend is legend . if you read this bhagat singh's story you will notice and in that park only not were sikhs or hindus muslim were died too.. dear plsssss come out of this emotional shell now ..
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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you are the ppl who are so impressed from indian ideology and without even giving a minutes to your thought consider other person child and yourself genius, scholar or some hot shot.... this child on other end you are talking might be older then you and may have seen world more then you and have more experience than you in world affairs so now let me come to the point normally i don't argue with ppl like you coz it is baseless but its important for me to give you answers... NO it was not only muslims who fought for the freedom but do some research and you will find that percentage wise mostly Muslims did armed resistance and they sacrificed more lives then any other sect/religion in this region... and as i mentioned you in my last post that we have enough of our own heroes to name intersections after them instead of looking for some indian heroes... and if you like them so much it will be better for you to pack you luggage from UK and move to your forefathers land... and i hope you grow up and come out your world where you think you are the best men and rest are just children

einstien child so what do you suggest


um my forefathers came from what is now Pakistan..... they fought for it and were proud to be Pakistani as am I

history did not start on 14 august 1947

do you think we should rename nankana sahib and panja sahib as well and ban all sikhs from Pakistan forever ?

Bhagat Singh was born in what became Pakistan, Lyallpur, and he was hanged for fighting the Brits at a very young age, around 1931, about the time the idea of Pakistan came into existence. So tell me should history ONLY be taught from 1947 ?

or should it be distorted to exclude the likes of Bhagat Singh, or should what they did just be ignored, because they were not Muslim

You say you might be even older than me and seen more. However old you are, and whatever you have seen, it seems you have learnt less than you would have if you had grown up alone in a cocoon which was inhabited by others like you. NOTHING.
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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um my forefathers cane from what is now pakistan..... they fought for it and were proud to be Pakistani as am I

einstien child so what do you suggest


ps history did not start on 14 august 1947



do you think we should rename nankana sahib and panja sahib as well and ban all sikhs from Pakistan forever ?

see when you don't have strong argument to support all the crap you said before you will come with such things and i really don't want to waste my time with people like you who only know how to write but don't know what to write... and no harsh feeling so just chill and when one day when you will grow up and mature then will understand what i was saying was right but it might be a bit late ... cheeers
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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see when you don't have strong argument to support all the crap you said before you will come with such things and i really don't want to waste my time with people like you who only know how to write but don't know what to write... and no harsh feeling so just chill and when one day when you will grow up and mature then will understand what i was saying was right but it might be a bit late ... cheeers

Sorry I am not prepared to leave it here, convince me first

as i said should we just forget history ?

read my last post in full. it is YOU who has run out of arguments strong or weak, with merit or totally useless.

would you like a list of places in Pakistan Named after Goras who happily killed muslims, They are acceptable to you more than this ? Ever heard of Aichison College, or Lawrence College Murree, Oh yes Murree who is that named after

Typical slave mentality. Chitta Sahib name okay, desi name no no

PS The language in which you are writing here, was given to you by YOUR slave masters, the English, or is it okay if we call it Angreazi

PS

How would you feel about naming places after Mandela, Gavera Castro and Mao ?
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Sorry I am not prepared to leave it here, convince me first

as i said should we just forget history ?

read my last post in full. it is YOU who has run out of arguments strong or weak, with merit or totally useless.

would you like a list of places in Pakistan Named after Goras who happily killed muslims, They are acceptable to you more than this ? Ever heard of Aichison College, or Lawrence College Murree, Oh yes Murree who is that named after

Typical slave mentality. Chitta Sahib name okay, desi name no no

PS The language in which you are writing here, was given to you by YOUR slave masters, the English, or is it okay if we call it Angreazi
and who told you that i am convinced by all this name, our country is ruled up till now directly or indirectly by gooras... if you think we are independent then keep dreaming ? and listen i am not here to win argument because it is impossible to win an argument with people who think that they are always right... no don't forget history remember it because there is too much to learn from it and you are not inclined to learn from history...

can you name any learder in pakistani history who was not slave of west or U.S ? No right so how can you expect from them to change these things who are left behind by their masters ... and if you called my mentality a desi mentality then i am proud of it because you mentally accepted their slavery but sorry i am not gonna...
 

Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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dear...you are too much emotional count me your heroes first .. dear legend is legend . if you read this bhagat singh's story you will notice and in that park only not were sikhs or hindus muslim were died too.. dear plsssss come out of this emotional shell now ..

dear list is too long but when you have time search about fakir of IPI, The great Fakir Saidullah, Palay Khan and as i said list is long enough. They fought with much more passion and with more strength then singh sahib... If you want to convince me about accepting that then sorry bro i will never accept bhagat sing as my hero... coz he is not our hero
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Lahore renames Bhagat Singh Chowk ... Congrats to all pakistanis

can you name any learder in pakistani history who was not slave of west or U.S ? ..

M A Jinnah ! now go tell me he was a slave ! or worse still he was not part of Pak history !

cheers


When Jinnah defended Bhagat Singh

NEW DELHI: Mohammad Ali Jinnah made no secret of his sympathies for Indian freedom fighters — Bhagat Singh and others in the Lahore prison — even though their politics and his were poles apart.
Jinnah went to the extent of defending Bhagat Singh in his speech in the Central Assembly on September 12, 1929. He held Bhagat Singh and his comrades in high esteem, says The Trial of Bhagat Singh — Politics of Justice by A.G. Noorani, Supreme Court advocate.
Mr. Noorani says Jinnah made no secret of his sympathies for the Lahore prisoners. On the hunger strike by prisoners in Lahore jail, Jinnah said "the man who goes on hunger strike has a soul. He is moved by that soul, and he believes in the justice of his cause. He is no ordinary criminal, who is guilty of cold blooded, sordid wicked crime."
"... I do not approve of the action of Bhagat Singh... I regret that rightly or wrongly the youth of today is stirred up... however much you deplore them and however much you say they are misguided, it is the system, this damnable system of governance, which is resented by the people,'' Jinnah remarked. The House was adjourned but Jinnah continued his speech in the next sitting and pointed out the anomalies that would arise if the trial of Bhagat Singh and others would proceed in their absence. — PTI



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I dare you to contradict Baba J
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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M A Jinnah ! now go tell me he was a slave ! or worse still he was not part of Pak history !

cheers
seriously you came with this ... M A Jinnah when we talk about history of pakistan it start after him coz he only lived for one year after getting you pakistan and left it for further slavery and you wrote me a name M A Jinnah and just ignored the rest of the points...

great work and keep it up... as i said no point of arguing here
 
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UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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seriously you came with this ... M A Jinnah when we talk about history of pakistan it start after him coz he only lived for one year after getting you pakistan and left it for further slavery and you wrote me a name M A Jinnah and just ignored the rest of the points...

great work and keep it up... as i said no point of arguing here

seriously you came with this ... M A Jinnah when we talk about history of pakistan it start after him coz he only lived for one year after getting you pakistan and left it for further slavery and you wrote me a name M A Jinnah and just ignored the rest of the points...

great work and keep it up... as i said no point of arguing here


seriously you came with this ... M A Jinnah when we talk about history of pakistan it start after him coz he only lived for one year after getting you pakistan and left it for further slavery and you wrote me a name M A Jinnah and just ignored the rest of the points...

great work and keep it up... as i said no point of arguing here

Seriously the history of Pak begins after Baba Jinnah ? as I said before Bhagat Singh predates Pakistan



just tell me one thing do you accept bhagat singh as your hero ?

READ MY LAST POST

If Baba Jinnah found him acceptable than who am I to disagree...........................



PS now you are saying Pak history begins AFTER Jinnah ?


I hope Allah can forgive you if you really think Pakistan history begins after M A Jinnah !!!!!!!
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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Seriously the history of Pak begins after Baba Jinnah ? as I said before Bhagat Singh predates Pakistan


READ MY LAST POST

If Baba Jinnah found him acceptable than who am I to disagree...........................



PS now you are saying Pak history begins AFTER Jinnah ?

yes i say coz a person who only ruled for one year and died what change he can bring ? and where he defended bhagat sing chowk and he never said that yeah he is our hero and on top this is pre-partition and jinnah was a leader and politician so anyone can disagree with him it was not like he was some prophet that we can't disagree with him...
 

UKPakistani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Lahore renames Bhagat Singh Chowk ... Congrats to all pakistanis

yes i say coz a person who only ruled for one year and died what change he can bring ? and where he defended bhagat sing chowk and he never said that yeah he is our hero and on top this is pre-partition and jinnah was a leader and politician so anyone can disagree with him it was not like he was some prophet that we can't disagree with him...


the change he brought
WAS Pakistan


duh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats it you now saying you are a better judge than m a j

sorry dude

i doubt you convinced anyone with that, even yourself

to dismiss m a jinnah like you just did shows how shallow you are

anything else he said or did you disagree with ?

let those who read all this judge

my intelligence has been insulted enough

ciao
 
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Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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the change he brought
WAS Pakistan


duh !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thats it you now saying you are a better judge than m a j

sorry dude

i doubt you convinced anyone with that, even yourself

to dismiss m a jinnah like you just did shows how shallow you are

anything else he said or did you disagree with ?

let those who read all this judge

my intelligence has been insulted enough

ciao

a single person can't do anything by himself there is a team behind him... will start with our prophet (PBUH) he has his team of companions (Sahaba) and with help of them he managed to spread the message across the globe, and then imran khan just didn't win the world cup by himself there was a team behind him and then M.A Jinnah he didn't do all by himself there was a team with him but all of them were leaders of their teams and no one can take their part in what they have done so Mr. Intelligent i never shred his efforts but made you clear that he was a normal human being like us and could commit mistakes and anyone has the right to disagree with his views...but for you to get this your IQ level has to be above average which i believe is not even near to average in your case...
and if the readers are like you then i don't expect any good judgement from them either...and my advice before i leave this discussion here and a brotherly advice
" Akalmand woh hota hai jis ko doosrai kahain, woh nahi jo khud ko kehta rahai us ko bewakoof kaha jata hai" so never say again that someone insulted your intelligence.

Salam
 

BuTurabi

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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just tell me one thing do you accept [HI]bhagat singh as your hero[/HI] ?

اگر دُنیا کے پچاس مُلکوں کی فوج کو ہماری گردنوں پر لا کر سوار کروانے والا اُسامہ بِن لادین ’’ہیرو‘‘ ہو سکتا ہے تو اپنے وقت کے سب سے بڑے استعمار
(سرکارِ برطانیہ) اور اُسکی نجس افواج کو دھرتی ماں کی چھاتی سے اُتار بھگانے کی کوشش میں جان کی بازی لگانے والا بھگت سنگھ کیوں نہیں؟؟

بِلا شُبہ
بھگت سِنگھ سمیت ہر وہ جوان بِلا تفریقِ مذہب، دھرم، رنگ و نسل ہیرو ہے جِس نے اپنا سینہ تاجِ برطانیہ کے بوٹوں تلے دینے کی بجائے بندوق کی نال کے سامنے رکھا۔ ویسے بھی ہیرو کِسی تسلیم کے محتاج ہوتے ہیں نہ خواہشمند، کِسی بڑے کو بڑا ماننا بھی ماننے والے کی عزت میں اِضافہ ہی کرتا ہے ورنہ دوسرا تو پہلے ہی ’’بڑا‘‘ ہوتا ہے۔

 
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Lawangeen

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اگر دُنیا کے پچاس مُلکوں کی فوج کو ہماری گردنوں پر لا کر سوار کروانے والا اُسامہ بِن لادین ’’ہیرو‘‘ ہو سکتا ہے تو اپنے وقت کے سب سے بڑے استعمار
(سرکارِ برطانیہ) اور اُسکی نجس افواج کو دھرتی ماں کی چھاتی سے اُتار بھگانے کی کوشش میں جان کی بازی لگانے والا بھگت سنگھ کیوں نہیں؟؟

بِلا شُبہ
بھگت سِنگھ سمیت ہر وہ جوان بِلا تفریقِ مذہب، دھرم، رنگ و نسل ہیرو ہے جِس نے اپنا سینہ تاجِ برطانیہ کے بوٹوں تلے دینے کی بجائے بندوق کی نال کے سامنے رکھا۔ ویسے بھی ہیرو کِسی تسلیم کے محتاج ہوتے ہیں نہ خواہشمند، کِسی بڑے کو بڑا ماننا بھی ماننے والے کی عزت میں اِضافہ ہی کرتا ہے ورنہ دوسرا تو پہلے ہی ’’بڑا‘‘ ہوتا ہے۔


Usama Bin Ladin kai naam koi chowk hai pakistan mai ? Pakistan mai aik khas tabka hai jo usama ko hero maanta hai aur shayad aap itafaak karain gai aur us tabkai ko aik doosra tabka kafi gaaliyan daita hai aur agar bhagat sing ko bhi aik khas mehsoos tabka hero maan raha hai aur woh din dour nahi jab is tabkai ko bhi galiyan parain gi...

par usama ki wajah sai aap kai mulk par to kisi nai hamla nahi kiya woh to baichara afghanistan hai jo lar raha aur mar raha hai.

Pakistan to apni kartooto ki maar kha raha hai jo hum nai bartanwi ghulami ko khairabad keh kar american ghulami ko khusamdid keh kar gaalai laga le... aur bhagat sing ki waja sai agar bartaania gaya hai to aap sai yeh umeed nahi thi mujhai kyoon us jaisai shaks ko hataani mai bartania koi kuch zyada jadojehad nahi karni pari thi...

Aur koi aik kisi aik ki nazar mai bara hota hai to doosrai ki nazar mai chota hota hai... zaroori nahi jisai app bara samjhai us ko doosra bhi waisai he samjhai...

khair yeh aik lambi behas hai app apni sooch kai saath kush rahai aur mai apni azaadana sooch kai saath koosh hoon...
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
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not sure what is the need to glorify an atheist in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan?

Bhai bahaduri bahaduri hoti hai, we should accept it with whole heart ,jalianwala bhaag m angrez general ne jaloos pe fire karwa diya tha hundreds of ppl were murdered , lot of them were muslims, hum log sochtey he reh gaye aur ussne england jaa k uss general ko maar diya at the age of just 23, he was a brave man, yeh usska haq hai k iss chowk ko usske naam se mansoob kiya jaye n being muslim hamen uska haq ussey dena chahiye
 

aamir_uetn

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Lahore renames Bhagat Singh Chowk ... Congrats to all pakistanis

Usama Bin Ladin kai naam koi chowk hai pakistan mai ? Pakistan mai aik khas tabka hai jo usama ko hero maanta hai aur shayad aap itafaak karain gai aur us tabkai ko aik doosra tabka kafi gaaliyan daita hai aur agar bhagat sing ko bhi aik khas mehsoos tabka hero maan raha hai aur woh din dour nahi jab is tabkai ko bhi galiyan parain gi...

par usama ki wajah sai aap kai mulk par to kisi nai hamla nahi kiya woh to baichara afghanistan hai jo lar raha aur mar raha hai.

Pakistan to apni kartooto ki maar kha raha hai jo hum nai bartanwi ghulami ko khairabad keh kar american ghulami ko khusamdid keh kar gaalai laga le... aur bhagat sing ki waja sai agar bartaania gaya hai to aap sai yeh umeed nahi thi mujhai kyoon us jaisai shaks ko hataani mai bartania koi kuch zyada jadojehad nahi karni pari thi...

Aur koi aik kisi aik ki nazar mai bara hota hai to doosrai ki nazar mai chota hota hai... zaroori nahi jisai app bara samjhai us ko doosra bhi waisai he samjhai...

khair yeh aik lambi behas hai app apni sooch kai saath kush rahai aur mai apni azaadana sooch kai saath koosh hoon...

yeh azadana soch nai hai mere bhai , azadana soch aala zarfi hoti hai aur hamen aala zarfi dikhaatey huye bhagat singh ki bahaduri ko tasleem karna chahiye , ussne wohi kaam kiya jo muslims karna chahtey they per nai kar paaye, india ne to nai haidar abaad ko raam pur bnaya, naamo se he farak parna hota to "islam abad" m zardari betha hota ?
 

sama.aamir1

Councller (250+ posts)
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dear list is too long but when you have time search about fakir of IPI, The great Fakir Saidullah, Palay Khan and as i said list is long enough. They fought with much more passion and with more strength then singh sahib... If you want to convince me about accepting that then sorry bro i will never accept bhagat sing as my hero... coz he is not our hero
dear i accpt palay khan fakir and all others too why not they are our hero too... dear by this all our soldiers who are fighting against terrorism and india and other die hard matterss .. dear but legend is something else.. ok if you dnt accpt it its your matter but to tell you one thing even english european people knows about this singh sahib. i am nt saying that he is superior than our own heroes just i say we should accpt and to dedicate one chowk isnt a big dealt. we pakistanis are emotionals we dnt think logicaly
 

Lawangeen

Minister (2k+ posts)
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yeh azadana soch nai hai mere bhai , azadana soch aala zarfi hoti hai aur hamen aala zarfi dikhaatey huye bhagat singh ki bahaduri ko tasleem karna chahiye , ussne wohi kaam kiya jo muslims karna chahtey they per nai kar paaye, india ne to nai haidar abaad ko raam pur bnaya, naamo se he farak parna hota to "islam abad" m zardari betha hota ?

us nai woh kaam kiya jo musalman nahi kar payee... aur app mujhai aala zarfi ka keh rahai hain. Bhai jaan jo muslmano nai kiya woh badkismati sai hum nai khud pase pusht daal diya aur dunya tak ko nahi dikhaya kai jo qurbaniya muslmano nai di azaadi kai liyai woh taadad mai aur har lihaz sai kafi zyada thi par hindustan nai apni media ki takat sai is aadmi ko sub ki nazaro mai hero bana diya... app thori mehnat kar kai daikhai kai muslmano nai kitni qurbanya di mairai nana aik mujahid thai aur angraizo kai zmaanai mai us ko bhi phansi huwi thi aur woh bhi bhadri sai lara tha aur bhadri sai shahdat ko galai lagaya par kisi ko us ka naam nahi maloom aur sub bhagat sing bhagat singh...

mujhai zyada masla is baat sai nahi kai aik shadman chowk ka naam badal kar bhagat singh rakh diya gaya par dukh is baat ka hai kai humai apnai hereos ka pata nahi aur doosro ko hero maan liya...

india ki hyderabad ki misal sub daitai hain par india nai kashmir aur gujrat aur baki hindustan mai muslmano ka kya haal kar diya us ko koi nahi pooch raha ... khair yeh aik alag topic hai par islamabad mai zardari hai to aaj shadman chowk ka naam bhagat singh hai aur agar hum logo ki sooch aisi he rahi to woh din dour nahi ho ga jab islamabad ka naam bhi rampoor ho jayai...
 

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