Proud to be a PAKISTANI : Film "BOL" got Indians talking

crankthskunk

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
One thing for sure, Pakistanis are original, it is such a shame, due to the blunders of 1980/90s the movie making has gone to the "Gujjars" who milked the film industry like they milk their cows. As a result we only saw, two tons Punhabi heroine doing 100 meters runs shaking their booty's.

But when some serious educated people like Shoaib get to work, the results are good, extremely good I say. I am certain we can beat Indians hands down if serious and educated people start working in Pakistani cinema, like we do in the Music scenes. At least Pakistanis would original, instead of stealing from around the world like Indians, be it "My name is Khan" or "Body Guard", they would produce something which relate to their society and its ills.

DEHLI: Facing stiff competition from Salman Khans Bodyguard on Eid, Pakistani film Bol is managing to hold its own thanks to the word of mouth publicity.

Dealing with multiple issues ranging from misogyny to prostitution to fanaticism, Bol is director Shoaib Mansoors second offering after Khuda Ke Liye. Bol was released alongside mega blockbuster Bodyguard, That girl in yellow boots and Mummy Punjabi. Unlike Khans masala movie, Bol offers a riveting storyline and great acting, with people publicising the film more than the PR agencies.

For starters, there is actress Vidya Balan who says, Loved Bol! Love the performance of the father. The boy who played Saifuddin was cute. My heart went out to him.
As one of the audience members, Tushar Pahwa, walking out after a show puts it, Bol is a ubiquitous film- whether a Muslim family in Lahore or a Hindu family in Bihar, everyone can relate to it. Women and transgenders are disrespected in India and Pakistan both. I just hope people start to speak up after watching the movie. It was a good gift for Eid.

Many have given the tickets to family and friends in beautiful gift envelopes as eidi. This was my eidi to my sister The films message has been well received and I felt my sister must see this movie as an example, says Shahnawaz Siddique, a shop keeper.

Film critic Taran Adarsh says, I have a problem with the distributors of Bol, who have come up with a wrong strategy to release the film at the same time as Bodyguard. I think this was a blunder. If it were released at any other time the collections would have been much higher. The word of mouth publicity of the film is good and I would like to say that it is definitely doing better than the other two movies released the same week.
Even the distributors are happy with the increasing popularity of Bol. Amita from the corporate communications of Eros International, the distributing company, explains, Media across the board has liked the film and has been extremely supportive of the film. The response has been positive overall. It was the companys strategy for a worldwide release on Eid. As for India, the numbers are still pouring in but in the middle east the film is doing very well.

Even Salman Khan fans have expressed their liking for Bol. Pankaj Mishra, a movie buff who watched both Bodyguard and Bol on the same day explains, There is no comparison between the two. While one is a masala movie for the masses, the other is a serious issue based film. It is sad but true that masala movies always do well in India as they are over hyped and well marketed. The real good cinema gets left behind. Bol is a brilliant film and off late Pakistani movie makers are doing a good job.

Adarsh also emphasises the brilliance of the film, I think it is one of the most amazing films to have come out of Pakistan. Shoaib Mansoor excelled in Khuda Ke Liye but this film has gone beyond that.
People are already watching it twice. Sunita Sinha, another movie buff has a reason to do so, For me the film has a strong message and inspires me to be brave. I can actually watch it again.

The tag of a film from Pakistan is one of the main attractions. Anshu Sondhi, a film student, had to see this film as she missed out on Mansoors Khuda Ke Liye. She supports the film, Bols concept is different and the actors are good. It gives us an insight into the Pakistani society and we Indians always want to know more about Pakistan. We want to understand the country and the people beyond what our governments want us to believe and see. Movies like Bol bring us closer to our neighbours.

Kritika Rai, a businesswoman came to know about the film from a friend. She says, We Indians dont have that sense to appreciate good movies like Bol and we waste our time on watching stupid movies like Ready and Bodyguard. I think we should support good cinema whether it is from India or Pakistan.

There is a buzz about Bol in Bollywood also. Many screenings of the film were done before its commercial release. Naseeruddin Shah, icon of Indian cinema, who was to play the role of the father in Bol, praised the film. In an interview to glamsham.com, an entertainment magazine website, he admires the film, Bol is absolutely the kind of film that Khuda Ke Liye should be followed up by. It deals with an even more important statement like faith and empowerment of women. I have seldom seen a statement made with as much power and feeling as this film. This is yet another film to be proud of. I can only find myself wishing I was a part of this film.

Bollywood has welcomed the movie from across the border and have supported the idea of art beyond boundaries. Samir Soni, who acted in films like Kabhie Khushi Kabhi Gham, Fashion and others explains, To coexist and prosper we need to have a better understanding of each other and issues that affect us. It is only then we realise how similar we truly are and this ends fear and resentment. Cinema is perhaps the most important medium that takes you up close and personal and should not be bound by political boundaries.
The social theme of the movie has attracted the intelligentsia. Rukmini Sen, a senior entertainment journalist, describes the film as rebellious, brave and original. She adds, Bol talks about the state of third gender in Pakistan. Condition of women and third gender is pathetic in most parts of Asia so the film represents the silence of many of us. Bol deconstructs issues of sexuality and sexual identity very sensitively. It sees the issue in its larger context of patriarchy, feudalism, religion and nation state.

The treatment of the story is much talked about. Satish Sharma, a painter by profession after watching the film appreciated the directors strokes. It was a joy to see how the director puts some of the old world wisdom in the right perspective. Whenever the father of the actress tried to escape a situation by quoting old quotes, she would correct him by putting his lines in the correct perspective. I thought it was intelligently handled.

While the praises are outdoing the critics, but not all have liked the film. Babita Verma, a social worker by profession objects to the melodrama in the movie especially while dealing with real issues. It began at some point and ended at another. The director moved away from the plot. It was not comprehensive and dragged at the end, disapproves Verma.

Some have even believed the word of mouth publicity to be the truth. Karishma Kapoor, a teacher, has not seen the film based on her friends feedback. I have heard it is long, technically poor and acting is bad. After this feedback I dont think I want to go and watch the film. I will catch it on television, as it is a film from Pakistan.
http://www.dawn.com/2011/09/05/bol-gets-indians-talking.html
 

gvnawab

Voter (50+ posts)
Haha its as if you`re entire world revolves around India. Good we have already won over you without even firing a single bullet. As for the movie scene, your movie industry is a million miles away from the indian movie industry. Sure we make plenty of crap but dude at least we make movies, we are the largest movie industry in the world even larger than the US. And there is audience for every kind of cinema, be it a ready or a Dev D. Bol is just one film. You guys don`t even respect your artists, coz of ur radicalised world view, treating them worse than prostitutes. No wonder every single one of them is ending up being here. Which is good for India. may world`s best talent work in india, be it pakistan or where ever, would only make us stronger and viable.
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
fantastic movie

i saw it on eid and saw many people crying during the movie.

Khuda kay liye was a masterpeice bol surpasses it is many ways.
 

yeh-cheez

Minister (2k+ posts)
...b4 someone comes and say shoaib mansoor a liberal fascist fr making this movie and others like khuda k liye...i salute him fr having a dare to bring change...! hatts offf..!(clap)
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Haha its as if you`re entire world revolves around India. Good we have already won over you without even firing a single bullet. As for the movie scene, your movie industry is a million miles away from the indian movie industry. Sure we make plenty of crap but dude at least we make movies, we are the largest movie industry in the world even larger than the US. And there is audience for every kind of cinema, be it a ready or a Dev D. Bol is just one film. You guys don`t even respect your artists, coz of ur radicalised world view, treating them worse than prostitutes. No wonder every single one of them is ending up being here. Which is good for India. may world`s best talent work in india, be it pakistan or where ever, would only make us stronger and viable.

Chill kar yaar. I love hindi cinema but i hate typical bollywood. We dont treat our artist like you think we do, people like Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan Sahib are revered in Pakistan. Watch Coke Studio for Modern Pak Music. Its just that our arts industry is not as developed nor do our corporates have enough money to pour it there. Plus our Govt. thinks its a waste of time.

So we do appriciate our artisits just like you do. But does bollywood actors dying to work in Hollywood is a sign that Indian treat them like crap? Its just about getting to a bigger market.

Trust me most Pak singers and actors would say that they are nothing without Pakistan.
 

KK YASIR

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mere bhaii kisi Essi Cheez per Fakhar karo jis per Qayamat k Roz b Fakher kia Ja Sakey......... Kisi Gunnah per Fakhar kerna Gunnah kerne se zydha bara fail hain.........

Hamare zawal ki wajah siyasatdaan nai hum khud hain her muslamna aj kal Gunnah ker k Fakher Mehsoos kerta hai means Allah Talah ne jis cheez se mana farmaya hai us per hum Allah k samney kharey ho ker Fakher ker Rahey hain .. Astagfirullah...

Kia sirf Ab yehii cheezain reh gaii hain Fakher kerne kooo... phir hum kehte hain k India .. Israil ..aur US ne Hamain Tabah ker dia .. unhoon ne nai hamarey is Fakher ne Hamain Allah k samne barbaad ker dia hai...
 

myn82

Voter (50+ posts)
indians will start talking on anything which degrades Pakistan, its society or religion, so not a big deal. What can we say about BOL which has come out of the house of propaganda machine, jew tv.
 

yeh-cheez

Minister (2k+ posts)
Haha its as if you`re entire world revolves around India. Good we have already won over you without even firing a single bullet. As for the movie scene, your movie industry is a million miles away from the indian movie industry. Sure we make plenty of crap but dude at least we make movies, we are the largest movie industry in the world even larger than the US. And there is audience for every kind of cinema, be it a ready or a Dev D. Bol is just one film. You guys don`t even respect your artists, coz of ur radicalised world view, treating them worse than prostitutes. No wonder every single one of them is ending up being here. Which is good for India. may world`s best talent work in india, be it pakistan or where ever, would only make us stronger and viable.

whats your major....MS in talking rubbish and crap...shutup..! i hate self praisers....aceepting the reality is fr the bravest....nt fr chicken hearted..!
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Mere bhaii kisi Essi Cheez per Fakhar karo jis per Qayamat k Roz b Fakher kia Ja Sakey......... Kisi Gunnah per Fakhar kerna Gunnah kerne se zydha bara fail hain.........

Hamare zawal ki wajah siyasatdaan nai hum khud hain her muslamna aj kal Gunnah ker k Fakher Mehsoos kerta hai means Allah Talah ne jis cheez se mana farmaya hai us per hum Allah k samney kharey ho ker Fakher ker Rahey hain .. Astagfirullah...

Kia sirf Ab yehii cheezain reh gaii hain Fakher kerne kooo... phir hum kehte hain k India .. Israil ..aur US ne Hamain Tabah ker dia .. unhoon ne nai hamarey is Fakher ne Hamain Allah k samne barbaad ker dia hai...

what is wrong about watching a movie about human rights?
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Human rights .... These rights are defined 1400 years ago.
WHy you need Yahood , Hanood idelogogy to reinvent those rights.
....

There is a hadeed interpretation
Badnazri walay pa ALLAH ki la naaat hoti ha

And what you are expecting from movies ....

badnazri?

i did not see a single bad-nazri scene in that movie..really i dont wanna argue just want to understand why a movie is not allowed ?
 

lafatah

Minister (2k+ posts)
Human rights .... These rights are defined 1400 years ago.
QUOTE]

most of these rights were defined even before that but Allah had to sent over a hundred thousand messengers and atleast 5 books...still we tend to forget it.

I dont see if a person tries to revive it though motion pictures.
 

KK YASIR

Minister (2k+ posts)
what is wrong about watching a movie about human rights?

Mere bhaii yehi tu me keh raha hoon k hamara Emaan itna kamzoor ho gaya hai k hamain Naeki aur Badi me faraq pata hi nai chalta......

aj se 50 Saal pehaly ager kisi Muslim Gharaney me movie chalaney ka soch b nai sakta tha ... ajj hum fakher se apni maa behan k sath beth ker sab kuch dekh rahey hotey hain..

Kuch aresey ruk jainnn hum muslammaan yehii b kahain gey ( Allah hamain us waqt se bachiy)

K Sharab peena kon sa Gunnah hai
Zina se Kia hota hai...
Qatal kerna me kia buraii hai..
Homosexual tu human right hai...

aur pata nai kia kia..

App aur me aur hum sab mil ker Allah se duain karain k Allah hamain us waqt se bachaiye ... Ameen


Hamare Fakher k liyeh yehii Kafi hai k Hum Musalman hain aur Muhammad pbuh k Ummati hai.............

Ager sirf is aik naimat per banda saari zindagi Sajdey me para rahey tu is naimat ka shuker ada nai ker sakta....
 

KK YASIR

Minister (2k+ posts)
badnazri?

i did not see a single bad-nazri scene in that movie..really i dont wanna argue just want to understand why a movie is not allowed ?

" Kisi Gair Mehram (female) ko dekhna Badnazrii kehlata hai Yeh Ankh ka Zina Kehlata hai ... aur Badnazrii Zina ki Pehliii Seeeri hai "

Allah Talah se Dua hai k Her Musalman ko is burey fail se bachney ki toufeeq ata farmiyee..

" ap ko aik bohat achii baat batata hoon Allah ap ko us per amal kerne ki toufeeq ata farmiye" Ager app kisi essey Gunnah me mubtala hain jesey ( Allah ap ko in Ginahoon se bachiye) .. Namaz me sustii.. Jhoot bolna ....Badnaziii.... Kibr.... Riya kariiii ..Dari na Rakhna... etc

tu app dil me usey zaroor bura samjhain us per fakher na karain bus Allah se her waqt DUA karain k YA Allah me tera Banda bohat Kamzoor hoon gunahoon me mubtala hoon mujhy aur tamam musalmanon ko in gunahoon se bachney ki toufeeq ata farmaaa....
 

Unicorn

Banned
Completion in this field along with education, business would be a very good thing. I have not seen this film but if it comes my way I will see it.
 
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Bombaybuz

Minister (2k+ posts)
Jee jee bohat proud feel ker rahey hain hum ... azeem kaam shoaib mansoor ney keya aur baki ka kaam aap ker rahey hain ... wesay aap ki knowledge k leya aik movie aur bhe ban rahe hai bus release main abhi kuch din baki han ... THE JUDGEMENT DAY.
 

garry317

Banned
90% indians who watch movies even dont know abt this movie....well i have heard from many paksitanis abt this movie.
i will download it..:P
 

Humi

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
lol..as if we need some other country's approval to feel proud..:lol:
 

c4cheema

MPA (400+ posts)
badnazri?

i did not see a single bad-nazri scene in that movie..really i dont wanna argue just want to understand why a movie is not allowed ?

Hazrat Ali (R.A) narrates that once he was in the presence of the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam when the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam questioned, "Tell me what is the most worthy act of a woman?" Upon hearing this all the Companions of the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam remained silent. Hazrat Ali (R.A) further reports that when I returned to my house I forwarded the same question to Hazrat Fatimah (R.A). She replied, "A woman should not see any man nor should a man see her." Hazrat Ali (R.A) says, "I then related this to the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam and he stated that Fatimah is my beloved child, for this reason she has understood properly." (Musnad-e-Bazzaar)

Hazrat Umme Salamah (R.A) narrates that once Hazrat Maimoona (R.A) and I were in the presence of the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam when Hazrat Abdullah Ibne Umme Maktoom (R.A) arrived. As he was blind it never occured to us that it was necessary to observe hijaab, therefore we remained seated. The Holy Prophet SallallahuAlaihi Wasallam ordered us to observe hijaab. I replied "Oh Prophet of Allah he is unable to see us." Upon hearing this the Holy Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said, "Are you both also blind? Are you not casting your sight upon him?" (Mishkaat, Tirmizi and Abu Dawood)

movies may to sirf namehram ko hi dekhna hota hai .. sirf chehra hi nahi uski sattar bhi dekhte hen jo k haram hai..............
aurat k hair bhi uski sattar may aate hen
 
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