PTI dharna of Islamabad will be crushed mercilessly and Islamabad residents will support this effor

farhankhan1111

Senator (1k+ posts)
not only islamabadian whole Pakistani want to see imran and jewish lobby in jail put him in jail for better future of pakistan.
 

nadeem01

Senator (1k+ posts)
@op

thank God someone from around here has spoken up, pls make a bigger effort to stop this person from coming to our city.....pls make a group, we contribute and get some promotional campaign to gather more ordinary citizens to stop IK from polluting our city, its always outsiders who come in, sit and destroy beauty and daily routine of Isloo

​chor idiot
 

shaikh

Minister (2k+ posts)
Wait till election 2018.......until than nothing is happening........Imran is just hyping Panama issue for election campaign and that is it ...stop panicking........about Pashtuns we rule Pakistan .....half of Islamabad is Pashtun n we got ample number of people in bureaucracy n Army so we don't lament but take whatever is ours

After Ishaq khan there has not been any serious representation of Pashtuns at highest level , but there is no comparison between IK and Ishaq khan and Qadeer khan , IK is just a untrained political activist with no direction , no proper personal life and sinful past .He has had no training in running of state and business , had no serious career , had no advanced qualifications like many of us . He is not suitable . His selection of KPK CM was at desire of former and serving PPP people.I know it personally from horses mouth.

Imran is not the type of person who can be relied to remove corruption , he has no insight into governmental and judicial workings. Today general Buhari of Nigeria has raided homes of justices of high and supreme court and recovered bribes but IK became a Billi ( cat) and apologized from Chaudhary the CJ . Guy is not proper stuff .

Pakistan essentially went into pashtun lobby hands in 1958 , after some five years of better governance owing to urdu speaking and other civil servants , the moment complicated issues arose , the regime faltered and in 1971 , they handed back to Sindhi the reins of pakistan , after one part of country was lost by them . Then Ishaq despite his good experience could not control himself and brought a girl with no experience except files of her links with foreign powers into power . He then even took oath from zardari . But Ishaq and Qadeer under zia did other great jobs .

IK is not the pashtun we punjabi senior and ruling class will accept , you have to bring others . Why do you not bring some proper person .

IK has so little knowledge , he starting cursing the shah of Iran who was great friend of Pakistan and a funder of pakistan and maintainer of its oil supplies in wars . Guy is just a tool of misguided modern mullah guided , USA supported Shia,lobby and agency lobby of Pakistan .

Time to dump imran khan has arrived . Contrary to your impressions I have very close contact with your top pashtun leadership from all parties and they personally value my political opinions as educated , Islamic minded or Pakistan orientated persons think in similar fashion.
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
After Ishaq khan there has not been any serious representation of Pashtuns at highest level , but there is no comparison between IK and Ishaq khan and Qadeer khan , IK is just a untrained political activist with no direction , no proper personal life and sinful past .He has had no training in running of state and business , had no serious career , had no advanced qualifications like many of us . He is not suitable . His selection of KPK CM was at desire of former and serving PPP people.I know it personally from horses mouth.

Imran is not the type of person who can be relied to remove corruption , he has no insight into governmental and judicial workings. Today general Buhari of Nigeria has raided homes of justices of high and supreme court and recovered bribes but IK became a Billi ( cat) and apologized from Chaudhary the CJ . Guy is not proper stuff .

Pakistan essentially went into pashtun lobby hands in 1958 , after some five years of better governance owing to urdu speaking and other civil servants , the moment complicated issues arose , the regime faltered and in 1971 , they handed back to Sindhi the reins of pakistan , after one part of country was lost by them . Then Ishaq despite his good experience could not control himself and brought a girl with no experience except files of her links with foreign powers into power . He then even took oath from zardari . But Ishaq and Qadeer under zia did other great jobs .

IK is not the pashtun we punjabi senior and ruling class will accept , you have to bring others . Why do you not bring some proper person .

IK has so little knowledge , he starting cursing the shah of Iran who was great friend of Pakistan and a funder of pakistan and maintainer of its oil supplies in wars . Guy is just a tool of misguided modern mullah guided , USA supported Shia,lobby and agency lobby of Pakistan .

Time to dump imran khan has arrived . Contrary to your impressions I have very close contact with your top pashtun leadership from all parties and they personally value my political opinions as educated , Islamic minded or Pakistan orientated persons think in similar fashion.

Dear Brother your posts and opinions about Imran Khan are based on prejudice and a very unhealthy tolerance to corruption, dishonesty and tyranny ...
Imran Khan is the only leader of a Political party who believes in the independence of all institutions of Pakistan .. be it Police, Judiciary or bureaucracy..
He is also the only one whose hands are not dirty with corruption and is not petty and power hungry ...
He has never tried to take law in his hands and never been known to use ghundda gardi ...
For you to say that his plan for the 30th is against our national interest is a big fat lie ....
He is not without faults but to say that he seeks power at the cost of our national interests is unfounded .... he is like any human being, prone to make mistakes but for an educated person with just a slight sense of politics to say that Imran Khan is out to destroy our nation with his agitation against a corrupt regime is nothing short of betrayal of conscience ...
I personally feel that people like you who are educated and some what well versed in the sordid history of our beloved country fail to support sincere leaders over seemingly more capable, energetic, pragmatic leaders who later turn out be scoundrels of the highest order leaving behind a sad legacy of deceit and plunder ...
I for one declare as a patriot that till there is a better option , will support Imran Khan in his struggle to free us from the destructive forces of Status Quo ... In Sha Allah
 
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seedasada

MPA (400+ posts)
Dear Brother your posts and opinions about Imran Khan are based on prejudice and a very unhealthy tolerance to corruption, dishonesty and tyranny ...
Imran Khan is the only leader of a Political party who believes in the independence of all institutions of Pakistan .. be it Police, Judiciary or bureaucracy..
He is also the only one whose hands are not dirty with corruption and is not petty and power hungry ...
He has never tried to take law in his hands and never been known to use ghundda gardi ...
For you to say that his plan for the 30th is against our national interest is a big fat lie ....
He is not without faults but to say that he seeks power at the cost of our national interests is unfounded .... he is like any human being, prone to make mistakes but for an educated person with just a slight sense of politics to say that Imran Khan is out to destroy our nation with his agitation against a corrupt regime is nothing short of betrayal of conscience ...
I personally feel that people like you who are educated and some what well versed in the sordid history of our beloved country fail to support sincere leaders over seemingly more capable, energetic, pragmatic leaders who later turn out be scoundrels of the highest order leaving behind a sad legacy of deceit and plunder ...
I for one declare as a patriot that till there is a better option , will support Imran Khan in his struggle to free us from the destructive forces of Status Quo ... In Sha Allah


حمزہ صاحب۔۔۔۔کیا یہ سب کچھ جو آپ نے لکھا ہے ،سوچ کر لکھا ہے ،یا حقیقتوں کو ٹھکراتے ہوئے ، ذاتی پسند کی وجہ سے؟

جسٹس وجیح کی رپورٹ پر تادیبی عمل نا کرکے بلکہ انہیں تحریک سے چلتا کرکے،،خان صاحب اپنی ایماندارانہ شخصیت سب کے سامنے پیش کرچکے ہیں۔۔۔سوچنے کی بات ہے جو لیڈر اپنے ہی مقرر کردہ کمیشن کی رپورٹ نہ مانے ،وہ کس قدر جمہوری،کس قدر ایماندار،اور کس قدر قوم کو انصاف دینے والا ہوگا

اگر آپ بچے نہیں ہیں تو اب تک محسوس ہوگیا ہوگا کہ خان صاحب اور انکے حواری۔۔رات دن ہونے والی میگا کرپپشن ،پر نہیں ،بلکہ ایک ایسے شخص کے خلاف ملک میں بھونچال مچائے ہوئے ہیں جسے یہ کسی طور کورٹ میں، کرپٹ ثابت نہیں کرسکتے۔۔کیا
یہ اور انکے حواری نہیں جانتے کہ احمقان ہڑبونگ سے سوائے لوگوں کو تکلیف دینے کے کوئی فائدہ نہیں؟ جانتے ہیں جناب اور
ہم آپ سے زیادہ بہتر جانتے ہیں۔۔تو پھرکیا مقصد ہے انکا اس ہڑ بونگ سے؟
سوائے اسکے کے عوام کی توجہ ضروری مسائل اور کرپشن سے ہٹا کر ایسے معاملات پر مرکوز کردی جائے ،جسکا نہ
کوئی سر پیر ہے، اور نہ فائدہ
ذرا یہ بتائے کہ ملک میں کون سا مقدمہ وزیرآعظم پر قائم ہے جس میں وہ پیش نہیں ہورہے؟ اور کونسا قانون ہے
جس کے تحت یہ کہہ رہے ہیںکہ وزیرآعظم مستعفی ہوجائے؟ اور مستعفی نہیں ہوگا تو ہم دارلحکومت بند کردینگے
غنڈہ گردی اور لاقانونیت اور کسے کہتے ہیں،،؟

کیا آپ بتا سکتے ہیں کہ حکمران پارٹی کے ہاتھوں مبینہ طور پر کھربوں کی کرپشن، لوٹ مار، پولس مقابلے، ناجائز ٹیکسز کے
ذریعہ خون چوسنے کے خلاف دھرنا کیوں نہیں دیتے خان صاحب۔۔۔۔۔نظر کمزور ہے یا حاکموں کو کھلی چھوٹ دینے کیلئے ،میثاق جمہوریت کے کسی کونے کھانچے میں یہ بھی چسپاں ہیں؟

جتنا بھی آپ غور سے دیکھیں گے ، خان صاحب کی تمام کاوشیں عوام کے ذہن کو بھٹکانے اور حکومت کو آرام سے اپنے کرتوتوں کے ساتھ وقت گذار لینے کیلئے ہیں۔۔۔۔اور اسطرح یہ احساس ہوتا ہے کہ نواز شریف کی سیاست میں شائد یہ اسکے سب سے بڑے
ساتھی ہیں
جو مفروضہ میں نےاوپر پیش کیا ہے،چند منٹ اسے ذہن میں رکھیں اور اس کے تحت خانصاحب کی گذشتہ چار سال کی
سیاست پر غور کریں


 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
not only islamabadian whole Pakistani want to see imran and jewish lobby in jail put him in jail for better future of pakistan.

The desperate Nooras playing the old chestnut of the Jewish lobby, whilst NS steals money from PK and sends it to Jewish banks and Businesses in the UK and elsewhere. The Jews control NS, and their man is Dani, who seems to be with anybody in power.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You should come to Pakistan to see what happens this time , it will be educative for IK and his followers

Well, nothing happened at raiwind and nothing will happen here. Like all Nooras, you will watch which way the wind is blowing and how you will make a few bob, whilst the country goes to dogs. NS treats you with the contempt you deserve, dont forget you are his serfs( when he dies, you will become SERFS of his daughter) and he knows that if he throws you a few bones you will come before he has whistled. If he doesnt offer enough, you will look at the next guy who will give you the deal you want.
 

MHAMZA

Minister (2k+ posts)
حمزہ صاحب۔۔۔۔کیا یہ سب کچھ جو آپ نے لکھا ہے ،سوچ کر لکھا ہے ،یا حقیقتوں کو ٹھکراتے ہوئے ، ذاتی پسند کی وجہ سے؟

جسٹس وجیح کی رپورٹ پر تادیبی عمل نا کرکے بلکہ انہیں تحریک سے چلتا کرکے،،خان صاحب اپنی ایماندارانہ شخصیت سب کے سامنے پیش کرچکے ہیں۔۔۔سوچنے کی بات ہے جو لیڈر اپنے ہی مقرر کردہ کمیشن کی رپورٹ نہ مانے ،وہ کس قدر جمہوری،کس قدر ایماندار،اور کس قدر قوم کو انصاف دینے والا ہوگا

اگر آپ بچے نہیں ہیں تو اب تک محسوس ہوگیا ہوگا کہ خان صاحب اور انکے حواری۔۔رات دن ہونے والی میگا کرپپشن ،پر نہیں ،بلکہ ایک ایسے شخص کے خلاف ملک میں بھونچال مچائے ہوئے ہیں جسے یہ کسی طور کورٹ میں، کرپٹ ثابت نہیں کرسکتے۔۔کیا
یہ اور انکے حواری نہیں جانتے کہ احمقان ہڑبونگ سے سوائے لوگوں کو تکلیف دینے کے کوئی فائدہ نہیں؟ جانتے ہیں جناب اور
ہم آپ سے زیادہ بہتر جانتے ہیں۔۔تو پھرکیا مقصد ہے انکا اس ہڑ بونگ سے؟
سوائے اسکے کے عوام کی توجہ ضروری مسائل اور کرپشن سے ہٹا کر ایسے معاملات پر مرکوز کردی جائے ،جسکا نہ
کوئی سر پیر ہے، اور نہ فائدہ
ذرا یہ بتائے کہ ملک میں کون سا مقدمہ وزیرآعظم پر قائم ہے جس میں وہ پیش نہیں ہورہے؟ اور کونسا قانون ہے
جس کے تحت یہ کہہ رہے ہیںکہ وزیرآعظم مستعفی ہوجائے؟ اور مستعفی نہیں ہوگا تو ہم دارلحکومت بند کردینگے
غنڈہ گردی اور لاقانونیت اور کسے کہتے ہیں،،؟

کیا آپ بتا سکتے ہیں کہ حکمران پارٹی کے ہاتھوں مبینہ طور پر کھربوں کی کرپشن، لوٹ مار، پولس مقابلے، ناجائز ٹیکسز کے
ذریعہ خون چوسنے کے خلاف دھرنا کیوں نہیں دیتے خان صاحب۔۔۔۔۔نظر کمزور ہے یا حاکموں کو کھلی چھوٹ دینے کیلئے ،میثاق جمہوریت کے کسی کونے کھانچے میں یہ بھی چسپاں ہیں؟

جتنا بھی آپ غور سے دیکھیں گے ، خان صاحب کی تمام کاوشیں عوام کے ذہن کو بھٹکانے اور حکومت کو آرام سے اپنے کرتوتوں کے ساتھ وقت گذار لینے کیلئے ہیں۔۔۔۔اور اسطرح یہ احساس ہوتا ہے کہ نواز شریف کی سیاست میں شائد یہ اسکے سب سے بڑے
ساتھی ہیں
جو مفروضہ میں نےاوپر پیش کیا ہے،چند منٹ اسے ذہن میں رکھیں اور اس کے تحت خانصاحب کی گذشتہ چار سال کی
سیاست پر غور کریں



Answer no.1 I have written all this to the best of my political acumen and moral compass and sincerity in best interest of our country's future,
1-main point is that Imran Khan's plan for the agitation against the Gov is purely his sincere efforts to uproot corruption which as per his view can only be dealt with from targeting the very top.
Many of us may not agree with this completely but it is what he is doing and no one else is in the picture ..
Is there anyone else who is fighting to uproot this corruption with such determination any where on the political map of Pakistan !!???

2- Justic Wajeeh's commission's finding does not expose Imran Khan's tolerance for corruption ... no laws of the state of Pakistan were broken ... Here Imran Khan did follow a questionable pragmatic approach but is separate discussion all together ... you may make a separate thread and tag me ...But the fact is not established that Imran Khan is incapable in any way to deliver justice which is the job of an independent judiciary with integrity .... for which Imran Khan has always voiced his support ...

3- The corruption that you are talking about that is happening day and night starts from the very top and can only be dealt with a fatal blow if leadership at the top is clean and sincere , in case of present Gov it is neither rather it is perpetuating and benefiting from it and can only be stopped if its head is severed .. one may have a 1001 alternatives but at-least Imran Khan is trying the way he thinks he can best deal with it ... it is not a science and you or me may have many bright ideas but on ground only Imran Khan is trying to see if his remedy will work or not ... does not mean that we should discourage him in any way ...
Mega corruption is in full swing many records have been burnt and many lives destroyed but in absence of any independent and effective NAB, Police , Judiciary no matter what proofs you have there is going to be no victory ....
Asghar Khan Case is a big example ... the supreme court gave the ruling and not a single penny returned and not a single person convicted ... so do keep the long term history of such sincere endeavors in mind before you try to question the very sincerity of a true patriot like Imran Khan .. he may not be the most capable and brightest fellow by a long shot but his patriotism and honesty are intact .....

4- What ever Imran Khan and PTI have done in the past 4 years leaves a lot to be desired but in all fairness no other party in the history of Pakistan has knocked more at the gates of ECP and the Judiciary and shaken the public to seek justice and to stem out corruption of the rulers than Imran Khan ...be it Madam Fatima Jinnah, Mujeeb ur Rehman or AM Asghar Khan...
 
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Shareef

Minister (2k+ posts)
Instead of crushing thousands of protesting people mercilessly, why does the prime minister not offer himself for accountability and stop such a thing from happening. Stubbornness of one man against justified demand of millions. It can only happen in Pakistan.
 

seedasada

MPA (400+ posts)
Answer no.1 I have written all this to the best of my political acumen and moral compass and sincerity in best interest of our country's future,
1-main point is that Imran Khan's plan for the agitation against the Gov is purely his sincere efforts to uproot corruption which as per his view can only be dealt with from targeting the very top.
Many of us may not agree with this completely but it is what he is doing and no one else is in the picture ..
Is there anyone else who is fighting to uproot this corruption with such determination any where on the political map of Pakistan !!???

2- Justic Wajeeh's commission's finding does not expose Imran Khan's tolerance for corruption ... no laws of the state of Pakistan were broken ... Here Imran Khan did follow a questionable pragmatic approach but is separate discussion all together ... you may make a separate thread and tag me ...But the fact is not established that Imran Khan is incapable in any way to deliver justice which is the job of an independent judiciary with integrity .... for which Imran Khan has always voiced his support ...

3- The corruption that you are talking about that is happening day and night starts from the very top and can only be dealt with a fatal blow if leadership at the top is clean and sincere , in case of present Gov it is neither rather it is perpetuating and benefiting from it and can only be stopped if its head is severed .. one may have a 1001 alternatives but at-least Imran Khan is trying the way he thinks he can best deal with it ... it is not a science and you or me may have many bright ideas but on ground only Imran Khan is trying to see if his remedy will work or not ... does not mean that we should discourage him in any way ...
Mega corruption is in full swing many records have been burnt and many lives destroyed but in absence of any independent and effective NAB, Police , Judiciary no matter what proofs you have there is going to be no victory ....
Asghar Khan Case is a big example ... the supreme court gave the ruling and not a single penny returned and not a single person convicted ... so do keep the long term history of such sincere endeavors in mind before you try to question the very sincerity of a true patriot like Imran Khan .. he may not be the most capable and brightest fellow by a long shot but his patriotism and honesty are intact .....

4- What ever Imran Khan and PTI have done in the past 4 years leaves a lot to be desired but in all fairness no other party in the history of Pakistan has knocked more at the gates of ECP and the Judiciary and shaken the public to seek justice and to stem out corruption of the rulers than Imran Khan ...be it Madam Fatima Jinnah, Mujeeb ur Rehman or AM Asghar Khan...
شکریہ۔۔۔۔۔آپ قابل عزت انسان ہیں
آج ضرورت اس بات کی ہے کہ تمام تر ذاتی پسندیدگی کے سیاسی معاملات کو بالغ نظری ،ایمانداری ، اور پاکستانیت کے تحت دیکھا جائے۔۔اور ہم وطنوں کو آگا ہ کیا جائے
میرا ذہن،حالات نے،ایسا بنادیا ہے کہ،جب تک کوئی اچھا کرکے نہ دکھادے،میں اسے زبانی کلامی باتوں پر اچھا نہیں مان سکتا
بہرحال ، خان صاحب کے لئے دعا گو ہوں کہ جیسا وہ کہتے ہیں، جب طاقت آئے تو ویسے ہی ثابت ہوں