1- whats the ultimate objective and goal of Nov 30 expedition?
Ultimate objective to press government and the courts to serve justice.
After elections 2013, when Imran Khan demanded vote audit of 4 constituencies and said that if no discrepancies are found in 4 constituencies, he will accept the whole result. At that time, I thought, IK is such a fool, elections were held on approx 1000 constituencies (NA + provincial) and he is just demanding for 4? As it turned out, even of 4 constituencies there was never a vote audit.
If justice is not served. Terminating Nawaz Sharif's government is a justified punishment.
As IK had said that NS keep his seat the IK keep dharna. if judicial commission with support of ISI and MI declares election rigged NS resign otherwise IK goes home.
2- how that objective is going to be achieved?
depends on the number of people.
when Nawaz had marched for restoration of judges, he achieved his results even when he had just reached gujranwala because number of people was so enormous that people used to say that its front end was in gujranwala and back end in lahore.
unfortunately, on 14th aug long march, by the time Imran khan reached gujranwala, number of people with him was so low that it became easier for pomi but to attack. imagine if there were huge number of people, would pomi but dare to attack?
3- what if projected number of people are not gathered? Where does it go from there?
then the people of pakistan would have no right to protest for anything until 2018, because they would have missed the opportune moment.
my observation is that people are not willing to travel to islamabad but they are attending jalsas in their own cities in large numbers. so another strategy can be dharna at railway stations, motorway terminals and airports of all the districts of punjab. each district leaded by one of the prominent leader and IK attending dharna at each different district.
Allah ne insaan k hath me sirf niyat or koshish rakhi hai.... kamyabi wo deta hai....
4- even if projected number of people are gathered, then what?
to be very honest, if the numbers exceed 3lakh who are willing to stand no matter what! then mob has its own psyche and no one, not even their leader can stop them. but the issue is pti jalsas are full of crowd like me who is willing to attend jalsa but unwilling to bear lathi charge or shelling of police.
jb tk ap khud har na man lain har b apko nahi hra skti
5- does PTI plan to invade parliament house and PM house? But IK is saying it will be peaceful?
if numbers exceed 3lakh who are willing to stand no matter what! then there will be no need of invading parliament and PM house. pressure will be immense and NS will have to yield.
another prospect can be blocking the road to Secretariat. this will jam the govt machinery
6- even if PTI invade parliament and PM house then what are they going to do after that? Burn them or occupy them?
i have already answered this in q#5
7- even if PTI burn or occupy parliament and PM house, how the change will come?
i have already answered this in q#5
8- because its clear that PM is going to resign so whats the plan?
my idea is that after 30th nov pti if it is unsuccessful pti will call of islamabad dharna and will spread dharna to other cities.
my observation is that people are not willing to travel to islamabad but they are attending jalsas in their own cities in large numbers. so another strategy can be dharna at railway stations, motorway terminals and airports of all the districts of punjab. each district leaded by one of the prominent leader and IK attending dharna at each different district.
9- if above violence does occur then people's sympathies will turn in govt favor and PTI will loose any moral standing
then there are 2 possibilities.
a) compulsive intervention which i have discussed in next question
b) top leadership of PTI getting arrested. in that case that will be at least a face saving and the faith of pti supporters in IK will strengthen that he went to jail but did not give up his cause.
the people of pakistan should understand that even according to our religion, it is stated that if one of the parties break a covenant, other party has no obligation to observe it. Constitution of pakistan guarantees right of free and fair election. it is a covenant between people and state. if state (including govt, ecp,supreme court) is not observing the covenant then there is no obligation to obey it.
10- is PTI expecting army to intervene?
Compulsive Intervention - the so called Kakar Formula will have to be adopted. or the intervention that kiyani did at the time of judges long march
NOT a martial law..... I repeat compulsive intervention and NOT a martial law
11- even if army intervene, they will not hand over govt to PTI
even if army holds free and fair election, thats enough for people of pakistan.
its a saying that 'insaf hota hua nzr ana chahiye'. its all about perception. people in govt say that election tribunals have decided more than half the petitions. but the perception is that justice is not served. there was no vote audit and even where there was a vote audit, there were no punishments. in politics, perception is more important than reality
12- so PTI may say that army will hold new elections. But the track record so far indicates that if army comes then they wont leave before 10 years.
i have already given u example of army intervention without a martial law. the kakar formula.
i personally believe even if there is a martial law, political leadership will go to jail for a long time. obviously it will be bad for pti as well but at least in the next elections whenever they come, the political parties will fear rigging because they will have in mind that if again some 'pa gal' like imran khan stand against rigging they will again go to jail for long time under military regime.
13- ok lets assume that army holds new elections within few months, then those elections will be held under same rules and regulations as of last elections. So how things will change for PTI?
my belief is that even if same laws without electoral reforms and amendments are 'implemented' and those who disobey these laws are punished, we will get a reasonably fair election.
there is no concept of justice without punishment, there is no concept of rule of law without justice and there is no concept of state without rule of law.
jis ne magnetic ink k paisy to lie magar galat ink di usy saza mily, jis RO or DRO or presiding officer k halky se jtny vote aisy mily jin ka cnic kbhi issue hi nahi kia nadra ne ya unka cnic us halky ka nahi hai ya cnic number likha hua hi nahi hai ya angothy ka nishaan hi nahi lga hua ya jtny vote issue huay us se km boxes se nikly ya jtny vote issue huay us se ziada boxes se nikly ya jin halko ki statement of count jo election k foran bad ecp ki web pe ani thi ab tk nahi ai un sb ko aik jali vote k bdly aik ghanta jail me rehny ki saza sunai jai..... agr statement of count hi nahi hai ecp k pas to result kesy bn gya?
14- some might say army will install a govt of technocrats. If so then under which constitution and law? What will be the legitimacy of any actions taken by such technocrat govt. Even military dictators need pseudo elected assemblies to make laws
my belief is that even if same laws without electoral reforms and amendments are 'implemented' and those who disobey these laws are punished, we will get a reasonably fair election.
I am NOT a blind follower. I hope I have clarified ur queries!
http://insaf.pk/white-paper-rigging
