See now you are upset, because I preempted you trying to take the conversation in the direction you wanted to take it too. But I see you are still trying from another angle to get to the same place. Anyways
آخر ایسی کونسی معلومات ہے جس کی بنیاد پر میں حدیث کو مسترد کر دوں
Quran se bardi aur kounsi malomaat chaiye is baat ke liye? Lekin chalo phir bhi
1 : Quran says it complete, easy and detailed and if it wanted to send you more Allah would have as he is not short of words. if all the seas in the world was an inkwell it would not be enough for Allah's words. Its says there no hadith other than the hadith of Allah and no sunnat other than sunnat of Allah. So then why do we need over 60 compilations of hadith written by men, when Allah says his one book is enough, do you not trust Allah?
2: The Prophet did not sanction, verify or sign off on the hadith in his lifetime, unlike the Quran. And if we are to believe your own hadith, the prophet in fact stopped people from collecting hadith and said take nothing from me other than the word of Allah.
3. Centuries passed before defeated Persians started collecting hadith. There is no way you preserve exact information verbally and still maintain accuracy with the method implied by so called hadith scholars.
4. Hadith is filled with contradiction, fabrications, blasphemy and outright fairy tales.
5. According to your own scholars of hadith the entire Sahih Bhukari and Musnad Ahmed fail the criteria of Sahih yani Authentic but rather should be classed as mahjoul i.e unknown. Yet Bhukari is the most sacred and holy book of traditional muslims like you after the Quran ( and that too in words only since traditional Islam is based 99% on hadith ) and all of this is swept under the carpet so sheep can keep following fake books written by men.
6. You yourself said Umar was one of the closet companions of the Prophet, Abu Bakr being the other one. The two people who spent most amount of time with the prophet, his closet friends Abu Bakr knowing him even before prophet, surely they must have narrated the most amount of hadith right? Wrong Abu Bakr narrated the least amount of hadith and with a combined total of less than 100 for both if my memory serves me right, why didn't they narrated the most amount of hadith?
7. Then you have someone like Abu Huraira who real name is also not known, accepted Islam late in life and spent only 3 to 4 years with the Prophet and yet has narrated the most amount of hadith, literally in the 1000s. So much so according to your own hadith your favourite Umar Ibn Khattab whipped Abu Hurairah and told him he narrates too much hadith and if he didnt stop he would send him back to his hometown ( in Yemen I think )
8. No original written by Bhukari in existance.
9. Bhukari is supposed to have collected 600,000 hadith in 16 years, meaning he had to gather, verify and write down 103 hadith everyday. Is that humanly possible? Or was he superman?
Is this enough for now or should I carry on? Because the whole case of hadith is riddled with problems
Since you like to been spoon fed like a baby as mentioned in the Quran, through Prophet Muhammad.
کیا تم نزول قرآن کے زمانے میں خود موجود تھے کیسے پہنچا ہے
A ridiculous and irrelevant strawman argument, but will answer none the less. NO I wasn't there.
قرآن تم تک پہنچے کا سورس نہیں بتانا
As mentioned above Once again the source of the Quran is Prophet Muhammad through whom it was revealed.
کیونکہ میں قرآن کو اللہ اور رسول صلعم کے بغير نہیں دیکھ سکتا
So who is telling you to do that ????