جواب کا شکریہ۔ تھوڑی صورتحال مجھے واضح ہوئی ہے کہ آپ کو کیا اعتراض ہے۔
لیکن آپ کا اعتراض پھر بھی درست نہیں ہے، کیونکہ بنی امیہ کے دور میں جو تقیہ کیا گیا، اس میں کب اللہ کا انکار کیا گیا؟
بنی امیہ کے دور میں کیے گئے تقیہ میں فقط اس بات کو خفیہ رکھنے کی ہدایت تھی کہ اپنا شیعان علی ہونا ظاہر نہ کیا جائے، کیونکہ ابن زیاد اور حجاج بن یوسف اور دیگر بنی امیہ کے وفادار ڈھونڈ ڈھونڈ کر شیعان علی کو نکالتے تھے اور پھر انہیں قتل کر دیتے تھے۔ (یاد رہے تاریخ میں "شیعان علی" کا مطلب وہ نہیں ہے جو آج لیا جاتا ہے یعنی "شیعہ امامی فرقہ" بلکہ تاریخ میں اس سے مراد لوگوں کا وہ گروہ ہے جو کہ بنی امیہ کے مقابلے میں علی ابن ابی طالب کو حق پر سمجھتے تھے اور انہیں دوست و محب رکھتے تھے۔ شیعہ کا لفظی مطلب "گروہ" ہے۔ اسکے مقابلے میں ایک اصطلاح تھی "عثمانی شیعہ"۔ یہ وہ لوگ تھے جو بنی امیہ کو حق پر سمجھتے تھے۔ اس مسئلے کی تفصیل پھر کسی اور وقت۔ انشاء اللہ۔)
مثلا بنی امیہ کے دور میں آل محمد کو رسول (ص) کے منبر سے گالیاں دی جاتی تھیں، مگر لوگ (بشمول صحابہ و تابعین) اس بدعت کو روکنے کی پوزیشن میں نہیں تھے اور باوجویکہ دل سے اس بدعت کو بہت برا جاننے کے، انکے پاس تقیہ کے سوا کوئی چارہ نہیں رہتا تھا۔
صحیح مسلم، کتاب فضائل الصحابہ
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ترجمہ:
سہل روایت کرتے ہیں کہ مدینہ میں مروان کے خاندان میں سے ایک شخص حاکم ہوا اور اس نے سہل کو بلایا اور حکم دیا [فَأَمَرَهُ أَنْ يَشْتِمَ عَلِيًّا] کہ وہ علی ابن ابی طالب کو گالی دے۔ سہل نے انکار کیا۔ اس پر آوہ حاکم بولا کہ اگر تو گالی دینے سے انکار کرتا ہے تو کہہ لعنت ہو اللہ کی ابو تراب (یعنی علی) پر۔
سنن ابو داؤد (لنک) پر یہ روایت موجود ہے:
Sunnan Abu Dawud, Book 40, Number 4633:Narrated Sa'id ibn Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl:
Rabah ibn al-Harith said: I was sitting with someone in the mosque of Kufah while the people of Kufah were with him. Then Sa'id ibn Zayd ibn Amr ibn Nufayl came and he welcomed him, greeted him, and seated him near his foot on the throne. Then a man of the inhabitants of Kufah, called Qays ibn Alqamah, came. He received him and began to abuse him.
Sa'id asked: Whom is this man abusing? He replied: He is abusing Ali. He said: Don't I see that the companions of the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) are being abused, but you neither stop it nor do anything about it?
امید ہے کہ آپ کے شبہات کسی حد تک دور ہوئے ہوں گے۔ انشاء اللہ۔
Mehwish Bibi,
You said you have understood a little but you didn't. Like I said, your lack of understanding of the Holy Quran due to lack of your understanding of Arabic language is the problem for you, and for majority of Pakistanis that they get mislead so easily.
After saying, that you understood a little you wrote" You objection is not correct, because the "Taqiya" performed in the time of bani Ummia, the denial of God was not done."
This alone is enough to demonstrate neither you understand my two posts nor you understand the Holy Quran. Let me try again.
The message of the Holy Quran and the only exemption given to the Muslims is to deny the God under duress because of either sever punishment or threat to their life and on the condition that they are not able to bear it.
Otherwise, the Holy Quran is full of verses which categorically state that if you give life for your faith, it pleases Allah SWT, and He SWT has promised great rewards in the hereafter.
I even tried to explain that from the Arabic of the Holy Quran, "Min kuffaro billahi min baad imanaha. This verse which you quoted in support of your Practice of "Taqiya" Decreed only the Denial of Allah SWT after achieving the faith (min baad imanaha).
That's why I asked you were those who were fighting against your so-called "Shias" not Muslims? They did have belief in Allah SWT? Were they asking to Deny Allah SWT (Min Kuffaro billahi)?
If they were not asking and themselves were Muslims.Then how the Ayah of the Holy Quran you quoted apply in that period? Why are you misguided and misguiding others by claiming the "Taqiya" is associated with "Shias" because what happened in that period? When the basic condition of the Verse you quoted was not meet?
So Bibi, what are you asking from me now? I have already taught you like a little kid that whatever you are taught is not only wrong but misleading.
You were wrong to say "Taqiya" is a Quranic order and every Muslims has to follow or believe in it.
There is no such order in the Holy Quran, lying is a abhorrent practice in Islam. You because of the teaching you receive are using the Holy Quran for an abhorrent practice of lying. When as a matter of fact, the verse is not applicable in that situation at all, and it is not widely applicable now in the world because nobody is going to threaten your life and ask you to Deny Allah SWT. It may happen in some countries like "India" that some Hindu terrorists kidnap someone and put someone under duress, then it would be applicable. The Verse is valid forever, provided the condition is fulfilled.
Now in your current post you have destroyed your point of view from your own quotation. You said "He is abusing Ali (RA)". That's why I repeatedly pointed out "Min kuffor billahi" denial of Allah SWT, not denial of Ali (RA) or anyone else for that matter.
You have proven from your own quotation that you were wrong to quote that "Taqiya" of "Shias" is a Quranic order and it is obligatory for Muslims to follow Shia's "Taqiya". There is no such order to the Muslims in the Holy Quran.
The concept taught to you is wrong, as you yourself quoted the problem was about supporting Ali (RA) or opposing him (RA). How does the verse of the Holy Quran you quoted is applicable in this situation?
Why did you quoted "Taqiya" is associated with "Shias" because their lives were threatened"?
Allah SWT didn't give Muslims the right to lie because of Political differences or in their fight to who should rule the Muslims. The condition is very clear which I have explained to you and the readers in details now.
May Allah SWT guide you and open your heart. If you still don't get it then please don't bother me again, I am sure, majority of the members who read these posts understood what I have written. And please I am not interested in starting "Sunni" and "Shias" debate here. I only responded because you wrongly quoted two verses of the Holy Quran to justify the abhorrent practice of "Taqiya" or lying. I just wanted for you to understand if you could, but if you cannot, then for the members to understand that you are wrong.
I hope they understood, if you didn't. Please learn the Holy Quran properly rather then following what you are taught. Quran is easy to understand if you try a little.
