People calling for harsh language and extreme measures from Imran khan

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
I do not know why people on social media are being irrational and illogical by demanding IK to take action.

Because of one of the negatives of social media. Very easy to be brave behind a computer screen anonymously. Every little kid and scumbag can say anything they like without any consequences.
 
I have had several discussions with family and friends during the last three months and most of them are super invested in Imran khan but a few have the opinion that Imran khan is going too soft on the establishment. I had a few arguments with them, a few examples
  1. Imran khan should mention Bajwa by name. why is he pussyfooting around the main issue?
  2. Imran khan should declare that he will march on Pindi
  3. Imran khan should start countrywide strikes.
  4. We need a civil war, or else we can't kick these generals out.
  5. He is not standing with Shahbaz gill as strongly as he should, he should not care about politics and stand with him no matter the consequences.

In my opinion, all these arguments are juvenile.

Answers:
  1. Mentioning Bajwa's name will accomplish very little in regards to shaming the generals to do the right thing, they know what and who IK is talking about when he talks about neutrals, and by mentioning people in name, it will make them move further closer to PDM, a bigger danger is those professional elements of the military that recognizes the command structure and don't want to break it but they still want to support IK. You can potentially make them choose sides, which might negatively impact IK's rapport within the ranks.
  2. A march on Pindi is not going to happen because no one wants to stand against the full might of the military, you have understood the concept of the monopoly of violence. Even a very unprofessional military can not be fought with by civilians like that. If IK does it, a lot of people will in one way or other, find ways to desert him, so in the end, he will be standing almost alone at the gate in Pindi.
  3. He can not ask the people to shut down the whole country as it can not be done for more than a few days max. He has to work through a long game, if you put your vehicle suddenly in the highest gear, your engine turns off. you have to rev things up slowly before you can reach extreme measures as keep it on that level for longer is a lot difficult.
  4. There are two major types of civil wars, identitarian civil wars between different ethnic, tribal, lingual, and religious groups. This is something we don't want at any cost. The other type is the Philosophy oriented civil wars, like the French revolution, and the American civil war both were fought by nations far different from us. Our outlook on society is not yet that mature even today.
  5. He IS standing with Shahbaz Gill, and everyone in PTI, but you can not provide the establishment, the reason that they need to shut PTI/IK down despite it being a bullshit case. It is an entirely another story, that how people will react to such actions but we need to understand that it is more of a 'do or die situation for a lot of enemies of Imran khan as now they have realized that tides have changed completely and they can not just reverse things, they know that they have lost in public and they can not recover.

In my view, IK's strategy of appealing to popular support, logic, and reason, shaming, and exposing is the best strategy. Having 'low political cost' events like Lahore is the way to go. IK knows, that no extreme moves would work but rather it will damage the narrative.
Totally Agreed, Imran you are disappointing, come forward and expose corrupt army and do what is right not what is tactful, otherwise what is difference between u and zardari/ Nawaz
 

alis

MPA (400+ posts)
Because of one of the negatives of social media. Very easy to be brave behind a computer screen anonymously. Every little kid and scumbag can say anything they like without any consequences.
yahi masla hai, har banda idhar se mouh se golay barsata hai.... Or ager aaj sab ko sach much bula liye Khan ne tu phir kisi ko Mama nahien choray gi or kisi ko jano, koi bachon ke sath masroof ho ga or kisi ki tabiyat theak nae ho gi.
 

stranger

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
People need to start on thier own wht wait for imran khan

Pakistan sab ka hai
jis din qaum ko samajh aa gai ke leader ke baghair mob ghaddaron per ziada bhari hai oos din aik nahi lakhon khan hongay...

per punjabi damagh ko aqal kahan aati hai.. in ko bas khana milay.. phir thori jugtain thora mujra phir so jao.. yehi zindagi hai punjabion ki
 

Raiwind-Destroyer

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
jis din qaum ko samajh aa gai ke leader ke baghair mob ghaddaron per ziada bhari hai oos din aik nahi lakhon khan hongay...

per punjabi damagh ko aqal kahan aati hai.. in ko bas khana milay.. phir thori jugtain thora mujra phir so jao.. yehi zindagi hai punjabion ki
 

yaar 20

Senator (1k+ posts)
بہادر آدمی ۔کی بہادری کی وجہ ہوتی ہی

صرف یہ ہے کہ وہ مصلحتوں کا سہارا نہیں لیتا ۔بزدل آدمی ہمیشہ مصلحتوں کے پیچھے چھپتا ہے۔
کیا مریم اور رانا ثنا اس طرح کی باتیں سوچتے ہیں تبھی ان کی دہشت سے پوری پی ٹی آئی کی کانپیں ٹانگ رہی ہے
 

alis

MPA (400+ posts)
Yea right! That’s also why nobody could ever colonize them.
LOL, this further validates my point. The only region that was not colonized in the Ottoman empire is just Anatolia+some northern regions, Ottomans lost most of their heartland in Bilad-sham, Egypt, etc. Ottoman was not just Istanbul.
 

Zulu67

Senator (1k+ posts)
the idea that revolution (forceful) can come in this country, It is some retarded bullshit. either you have no idea what is needed for such a revolution or you have no idea about Pakistanis or maybe both.
Looking at The Iranian revolution of 79, was it forceful? Yet it happened, despite our differences, IK has made an impact and enhanced our unity as in one nation under ALLAH and his Deen.
Pakistan is at a perfect place in history, a perfect storm is brewing in country of my birth Mr Zulfi.
It is time for the elimination of cancerous regime of GHQ, and their monstrous creations, NAWAZ AND ZARDAREE gangs.
I know PAKISTAN Jack. F off with your juvenile cowardice behavior.
 

Rambler

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
yahi masla hai, har banda idhar se mouh se golay barsata hai.... Or ager aaj sab ko sach much bula liye Khan ne tu phir kisi ko Mama nahien choray gi or kisi ko jano, koi bachon ke sath masroof ho ga or kisi ki tabiyat theak nae ho gi.

I have been saying this to such people to just stand outside GHQ main gate with a placard saying 'Army should not meddle in politics'. Stand there just for 15 mins and post a video here. Then you are eligible to demand whatever you want.
 

alis

MPA (400+ posts)
jis din qaum ko samajh aa gai ke leader ke baghair mob ghaddaron per ziada bhari hai oos din aik nahi lakhon khan hongay...

per punjabi damagh ko aqal kahan aati hai.. in ko bas khana milay.. phir thori jugtain thora mujra phir so jao.. yehi zindagi hai punjabion ki
Yes, I agree that a mob-style agitation is a good way but not under a political banner.
 

waseem137

Minister (2k+ posts)
عمران خان کو باجوے کے سامنے کھل کر آنا ہو گا۔ یہ بزدل فوج ہے، ان مادر چودوں کی ٹٹی خشک ہو جائے گی۔