People calling for harsh language and extreme measures from Imran khan

[انقلاب]

okay, let us simulate what you are saying, what exactly is going to happen. the civil war between which groups? exactly? there are not other political powers, PDM is a shell, and there is no street power with them. what the fuck you are really talking about?
.... only two powers in the country are us (PTI) and ARMY. Army has a monopoly over violence....so please tell me ...what is your game plan.

I had different designs but now my game plan is to make a juvenile fcuk like yourself go round and round in circles.

 

[The better future...]

I have had several discussions with family and friends during the last three months and most of them are super invested in Imran khan but a few have the opinion that Imran khan is going too soft on the establishment. I had a few arguments with them, a few examples

1. Imran khan should mention Bajwa by name. why is he pussyfooting around the main issue?
2. Imran khan should declare that he will march on Pindi
3. Imran khan should start countrywide strikes.
4. We need a civil war, or else we can't kick these generals out.
5. He is not standing with Shahbaz gill as strongly as he should, he should not care about politics and stand with him no matter the consequences.

In my opinion, all these arguments are juvenile.

Answers:

1. Mentioning Bajwa's name will accomplish very little in regards to shaming the generals to do the right thing, they know what and who IK is talking about when he talks about neutrals, and by mentioning people in name, it will make them move further closer to PDM, a bigger danger is those professional elements of the military that recognizes the command structure and don't want to break it but they still want to support IK. You can potentially make them choose sides, which might negatively impact IK's rapport within the ranks.
2. A march on Pindi is not going to happen because no one wants to stand against the full might of the military, you have understood the concept of the monopoly of violence. Even a very unprofessional military can not be fought with by civilians like that. If IK does it, a lot of people will in one way or other, find ways to desert him, so in the end, he will be standing almost alone at the gate in Pindi.
3. He can not ask the people to shut down the whole country as it can not be done for more than a few days max. He has to work through a long game, if you put your vehicle suddenly in the highest gear, your engine turns off. you have to rev things up slowly before you can reach extreme measures as keep it on that level for longer is a lot difficult.
4. There are two major types of civil wars, identitarian civil wars between different ethnic, tribal, lingual, and religious groups. This is something we don't want at any cost. The other type is the Philosophy oriented civil wars, like the French revolution, and the American civil war both were fought by nations far different from us. Our outlook on society is not yet that mature even today.
5. He IS standing with Shahbaz Gill, and everyone in PTI, but you can not provide the establishment, the reason that they need to shut PTI/IK down despite it being a bullshit case. It is an entirely another story, that how people will react to such actions but we need to understand that it is more of a 'do or die situation for a lot of enemies of Imran khan as now they have realized that tides have changed completely and they can not just reverse things, they know that they have lost in public and they can not recover.

In my view, IK's strategy of appealing to popular support, logic, and reason, shaming, and exposing is the best strategy. Having 'low political cost' events like Lahore is the way to go. IK knows, that no extreme moves would work but rather it will damage the narrative.

Agreed.. we cannot afford to throw a loose ball which could b used against IK. Yeh aik jadujehad hai. Need to stay on the course n keep on building up pressure.. the rest is in the hands of ALLAH Subhanahtala... n truth il prevail insha'Allah..GOD BLESS..

 

[Wake up Pak]

How?

 

[انقلاب]

I am with you man but I think IK is dragging his feet so we should not wait for him. You should organise like minded people and march towards the GHQ.

Pakistanis need to take the initiative themselves. Rest are all farces.

 

[Rambler]

dude, I am depressed as fuck, but we should stick with a realistic solutions. this bombastic wishfulness will get us nowhere.

I think you are just too afraid but no matter. Why are you trying to turn them into cowards. They will march toward you know where and drag you know who on the streets tomorrow

 

[Zulu67]

dude, I am depressed as fuck, but we should stick with a realistic solutions. this bombastic wishfulness will get us nowhere.

I am beyond depressed..Solution is FREE & FAIR ELECTIONS, under UN jurisdiction only way forward. Otherwise Bajwa gang wins.
That bastard Raja Sultan is a pimp of Bajwa.

 

[Rambler]

Pakistanis need to take the initiative themselves. Rest are all farces.

That's what I am saying. IK is too cowardly. You are a Pakistani so you should take the first step and start demostrating. Just a placard with an innocent writing that 'Army should not meddle in politics' which everyone agrees with would be a good start.

 

[alis]

I am beyond depressed..Solution is FREE & FAIR ELECTIONS, under UN jurisdiction only way forward. Otherwise Bajwa gang wins.
That bastard Raja Sultan is a pimp of Bajwa.

is bili ke galay mein ghanti kon banday ga? bili ke murdaar hone ka intezar karo.

 

[انقلاب]

That's what I am saying. IK is too cowardly. You are a Pakistani so you should take the first step and start demostrating. Just a placard with an innocent writing that 'Army should not meddle in politics' which everyone agrees with would be agood start.

Khan can only do so much. He is not iron man to pounce upon military hardware in a steel suit. Pakistanis need to protect him by taking this war to the devil’s den themselves.

 

[Rambler]

Khan can only do so much. He is not iron man to pounce upon military hardware in a steel suit. Pakistanis need to protect him by taking this war to the devil’s den themselves.

Eggzactly that's what I am saying - Go and protest outside GHQ instead of waiting for IK. What's your real name and address. I am making a list of people who will be joining the protest outside GHQ tomorrow.

 

[Rambler]

is bili ke galay mein ghanti kon banday ga? bili ke murdaar hone ka intezar karo.

Three people are just on this thread. Get their names and addresses and put them into your schindlers list.

 

[Zulu67]

is bili ke galay mein ghanti kon banday ga? bili ke murdaar hone ka intezar karo.

Slight correction Zulfi, is key lulleee..may awam infected condom dalain gay.

 

[BeggersForSale]

Friday 19th Aug 8PM - solidarity with Shahbaz Gill - people need to come out for protest in different locations by themselves. #solidarityWithShahbazGill #شہباز_گل_کو_رہا_کرو #ReleaseShahbazGill

 

[Abdullah9]

Agree with you 100%. IK has to tread very carefully and the idiots who are yelling for direct confrontation with Army are filthy pigs. Everything is going in a positive direction and IK's popularity is increasing exponentially. Soon the so called most powerful will realize that they cannot fight against this huge public support and give way. Bravery in the current situation means to show retraint rather then evoke a turmoil.

Write it down, when IK will become impossible to break and his coming back to power will be written on the wall he will be eliminated. And boots will come out from the puppet democratic government. After all his (IK) efforts and patience towards establishment he will not be spared.

 

[Rambler]

Write it down, when IK will become impossible to break and his coming back to power will be written on the wall he will be eliminated. And boots will come out from the puppet democratic government. After all his (IK) efforts and patience towards establishment he will not be spared.

What's the point of writing down something coming from an anonymous ID. If you are more wise and brave than IK you should give your plan to the nation and start a struggle. You and me have no responsibility and nothing to loose like a spectator in a stadium. We can very easily ask the batsman to hit a six without understanding how quickly the ball is moving.

 

[fnaeem]

Erdogan has already successfully accomplished the Herculean task of clamping down judiciary and military not too long past. It happened cause the Turks didn’t give a flying fcuk to their “military’s full might”.

their ssg fought the traitors. here they report to anjum