Perfect Time to Start Operation Clean up in Karachi

AyeshaK

Voter (50+ posts)
zara yeh bhi too soochoo keh tum loog pichlay 30 saloon say kia kar rahay ho?
kabhi na kabhi too apnay kiay huaay ka bhugtan karna hi hoga.

Or tum pichalay 66 saal say kiya karay ho ? Mulk ko tor tar kay - chori chamari kar kay - tabha or barbaad kar diya - iss ka hissab to pahlay tum ko deena hoga!!

Bangladesh mohajir nay banaya hai? Balochistan may mohajir azaadi mangray hain???? Who is reponsible for that?

Yeh mulk bee mohajir ka diya wa hai or jis atomic bomb pay tum fakhr kartay ho, woh bhi mohajir ka hi diya wa hai !
 
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moodykhan

Councller (250+ posts)
Yaaro ---- Let this MAFIA die a political death..which Alhamdulillah seems Iminent..
Any thing that appears unfair will give them a New Life.. No more 'Shaheeds' please
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
Wasif - MQM was created in reaction to intimidation of waderas and shahi syed's drug mafia but then it became what is set out to condemn - If these waderas and drug mafia did what they did, didn't MQM started doing the same? Extortion? Intimidation? Violence? It was like, if you can't beat them, join them. That is why it started losing support because this is not what Urdu speaking people are all about. We were known for our education and enlightenment - we were never uncivilized and wild. This tribal culture not ours! As a matter of fact, it was our education that made Pakistan a possibility in the first place as mostly the Urdu speaking were spear heading the Pakistan Independence movement - a fact the "self-proclaimed heirs" of Pakistan have convenietely forgotton. I see their blatant discrimination, and it makes me wonder....if Jinnah was alive today, would they "accuse" him of being a mohajir too?
I tried to make the same point .... the discrimination agaisnt Urdu speakers is basic foundation and reason of mandate for MQM .... everyone says MQM must end but no one steps up to offer to represent urdu speakers ... no one speaks for discriminations ...
they gave you a SEPARATE domicile they dont consider you a part of sindh , and admissions and jobs are classified as karachi or sindh domicile ... these things would have continued and worsen if MQM didnt have seats in the House ..there are still many Zulfiqar mirzas who are waiting for their chance to CLAIM Karachi back from Urdu speakers

but now that MQM is involved in extortion and stuff ,Urdu speakers have no other option and idiots like above think Urdu speakers support violence and extortion

!! PTI had a chance but they took a line which majority of Karachiets don;t like i.e taliban apologies ,and they didn;t even campaigned in Khi . and not direct confrontation with MQM for whom everyone has a soft corner if not full support ..
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
Operation is already begun,
through ballots not bullets.....


One down (NA-250), more to go

 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
I tried to make the same point .... the discrimination agaisnt Urdu speakers is basic foundation and reason of mandate for MQM .... everyone says MQM must end but no one steps up to offer to represent urdu speakers ... no one speaks for discriminations ...
they gave you a SEPARATE domicile they dont consider you a part of sindh , and admissions and jobs are classified as karachi or sindh domicile ... these things would have continued and worsen if MQM didnt have seats in the House ..there are still many Zulfiqar mirzas who are waiting for their chance to CLAIM Karachi back from Urdu speakers

but now that MQM is involved in extortion and stuff ,Urdu speakers have no other option and idiots like above think Urdu speakers support violence and extortion

!! PTI had a chance but they took a line which majority of Karachiets don;t like i.e taliban apologies ,and they didn;t even campaigned in Khi . and not direct confrontation with MQM for whom everyone has a soft corner if not full support ..

We have the alternative to,

MQM of Karachi
PPP of rural Sindh, and
PMLn of Punjab

Welcome PTI of PAKISTAN
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
We have the alternative to,

MQM of Karachi
PPP of rural Sindh, and
PMLn of Punjab

Welcome PTI of PAKISTAN
voted for PTI , now I regret it, after U-turns and totally pro-taliban stance of would be CM KPK and some other realizations .. not going to argue about it here ... on top of all, no PTI candidate in Karachi came out and talked to public in Karachi .. ensuring people to represent Udru speakers of this city ..
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
voted for PTI , now I regret it, after U-turns and totally pro-taliban stance of would be CM KPK and some other realizations .. not going to argue about it here ... on top of all, no PTI candidate in Karachi came out and talked to public in Karachi .. ensuring people to represent Udru speakers of this city ..

Beg to differ with you....

We have such a low expectation from all the parties, while
expecting PTI to perform miracles against this rotten system.

PTI has already accomplished much more without being part of this corrupt system.....

 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Or tum pichalay 66 saal say kiya karay ho ? Mulk ko tor tar kay - chori chamari kar kay - tabha or barbaad kar diya - iss ka hissab to pahlay tum ko deena hoga!!

Bangladesh mohajir nay banaya hai? Balochistan may mohajir azaadi mangray hain???? Who is reponsible for that?

Yeh mulk bee mohajir ka diya wa hai or jis atomic bomb pay tum fakhr kartay ho, woh bhi mohajir ka hi diya wa hai !

chief of army staf aor sadre pakistan ko kin bhool gaay ho jo muhajir tha aoor sirf uski wajah say tum loogoon ko itna ikhtiar mia tha?
pichlay 65 saloon say ham loog tumm logoon ko paal rahay hain haum,yeh kion bhool jatay ho.bas lafaz muhajir hi yaad aata hay har mooqa par tumhain,tumhari aksareat say pehlay yeh shahar roshanion ka shehar kehlata tha ab kia bana dia hay tum logoon nai isay,aik QATAL GAHH?
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
Beg to differ with you....

We have such a low expectation from all the parties, while
expecting PTI to perform miracles against this rotten system.

PTI has already accomplished much more without being part of this corrupt system.....

I don;t know how it is too much expectation ?? just come out and campaign in Karachi just like PTI did in rest of Pakistan .... talk with people and ensure to represent them and protect their rights ?? this is not too much to ask .... but as I said I m not going to argue about that here ..
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
chief of army staf aor sadre pakistan ko kin bhool gaay ho jo muhajir tha aoor sirf uski wajah say tum loogoon ko itna ikhtiar mia tha?
pichlay 65 saloon say ham loog tumm logoon ko paal rahay hain haum,yeh kion bhool jatay ho.bas lafaz muhajir hi yaad aata hay har mooqa par tumhain,tumhari aksareat say pehlay yeh shahar roshanion ka shehar kehlata tha ab kia bana dia hay tum logoon nai isay,aik QATAL GAHH?
hahahah nafrat khul k samny arahi he ...
hamy koi nhi pall rahah sb se parhi likhi qoum he urdu ... blkyKarachi pall raha he Pakistan ko 70%kamai karachi deta he .not other way around .. Pakistan me bacha kia he siway Karachi k ?? or Karachi me shuru se hi urdu majority thi

tehreek-e-Pakistan bhi parho kabi URDU bolny waly hi thy jinho ne Pakistan bnaya tha

bs ab or koi bat nhi ... tu apni nafrat ugalta reh jitni marzi ...
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
Don't Fight please I'm Urdu Speaking...I Guess Words Muhajir is very outdated now we are "URDU SPEAKING PAKISTAN'S"
no one likes being called an immigrant in his homeland .. but this name is repeatedly imposed on us that it became our identity !!Sindhi est. doesnt accept you a sindhi so
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
hahahah nafrat khul k samny arahi he ...
hamy koi nhi pall rahah sb se parhi likhi qoum he urdu ... blkyKarachi pall raha he Pakistan ko 70%kamai karachi deta he .not other way around .. Pakistan me bacha kia he siway Karachi k ?? or Karachi me shuru se hi urdu majority thi

tehreek-e-Pakistan bhi parho kabi URDU bolny waly hi thy jinho ne Pakistan bnaya

bs ab or koi bat nhi ... tu apni nafrat ugalta reh jitni marzi ...

tumhari tahrir aoor batoon say hi andaza ho jatahay tumhari tarbeat kaisay aoor kis nay ki hay,kitaboon kay hawalay main bhi daysakta hoonmagar mujhay yaqeen hay keh woh hawalay tumhari samajh main aaian gay nahin.
 

desan

President (40k+ posts)
I don;t know how it is too much expectation ?? just come out and campaign in Karachi just like PTI did in rest of Pakistan .... talk with people and ensure to represent them and protect their rights ?? this is not too much to ask .... but as I said I m not going to argue about that here ..

Please be honest with yourself and your country.

Know the true gem.

Do you have a better alternative???
 
I tried to make the same point .... the discrimination agaisnt Urdu speakers is basic foundation and reason of mandate for MQM .... everyone says MQM must end but no one steps up to offer to represent urdu speakers ... no one speaks for discriminations ...
they gave you a SEPARATE domicile they dont consider you a part of sindh , and admissions and jobs are classified as karachi or sindh domicile ... these things would have continued and worsen if MQM didnt have seats in the House ..there are still many Zulfiqar mirzas who are waiting for their chance to CLAIM Karachi back from Urdu speakers

but now that MQM is involved in extortion and stuff ,Urdu speakers have no other option and idiots like above think Urdu speakers support violence and extortion

!! PTI had a chance but they took a line which majority of Karachiets don;t like i.e taliban apologies ,and they didn;t even campaigned in Khi . and not direct confrontation with MQM for whom everyone has a soft corner if not full support ..

what discrimination? u call yourself Mohajir isn't it a discrimination to your self u do? Your so called leader Altaf Hussain used this Urdu card and sickened your mentality to support him and his armed to teeth goons.

Lets talk about facts, what did he do for mohajirs so far? He handed guns to youngsters, he destroyed their lives, pushing them to fight with Sindhis, balochis, Pathans and even their own kind (MQM haqeeqi), merely for Power and Position? He gave nothing but inferiority complex to Urdu speaking people and brain washed them to get his selfish ambitions. He took a lot out of you.. Property in UK, apartments, Casinos.. Wake up man..

Now lets talk what Sindhis paid.. I've seen myself illiterate guys are working on 18 grade in civic center, and they don't even know how to draft an official letter, they have J.M & Pan in their mouth, and they speak unethical language..
No sindhi can get admission in a reputed university in Karachi, then why they claim that only mohajirs are deprived with basic rights?

Governor Ishrat ul Ibad ruined Sindh's education, he posted his favourite vice chancellors in many universities in Sindh, he extended thrice their tenures who were retired. Even in Karachi in many colleges bhai log have political hold and they do what they want.. You forgot Jinnahpur & mohajir soba? do u think he is doing it for mohajir people's prosperity? Hell no.. He's on CIA payroll buddy.. search youtube, the confession of Ajmal Pahari whatever his name, he confessed he was sent to India and trained from any Major Ravi.. those who never accepted Pakistan.

Sindhis don't want discrimination with you, it's within you.. you guys started it & everybody followed the same thing..In 2008 Altaf Hussain said, Pathan (ANP) are Taaliban, we won't let them take over Karachi, and few days back the same ANP leadership went to Nine Zero and they all sat together against Taliban.. who's being fooled? I wonder why no MQM supporter question these things to Altaf Hussain?
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
what discrimination? u call yourself Mohajir isn't it a discrimination to your self u do? Your so called leader Altaf Hussain used this Urdu card and sickened your mentality to support him and his armed to teeth goons.

Lets talk about facts, what did he do for mohajirs so far? He handed guns to youngsters, he destroyed their lives, pushing them to fight with Sindhis, balochis, Pathans and even their own kind (MQM haqeeqi), merely for Power and Position? He gave nothing but inferiority complex to Urdu speaking people and brain washed them to get his selfish ambitions. He took a lot out of you.. Property in UK, apartments, Casinos.. Wake up man..

Now lets talk what Sindhis paid.. I've seen myself illiterate guys are working on 18 grade in civic center, and they don't even know how to draft an official letter, they have J.M & Pan in their mouth, and they speak unethical language..
No sindhi can get admission in a reputed university in Karachi, then why they claim that only mohajirs are deprived with basic rights?

Governor Ishrat ul Ibad ruined Sindh's education, he posted his favourite vice chancellors in many universities in Sindh, he extended thrice their tenures who were retired. Even in Karachi in many colleges bhai log have political hold and they do what they want.. You forgot Jinnahpur & mohajir soba? do u think he is doing it for mohajir people's prosperity? Hell no.. He's on CIA payroll buddy.. search youtube, the confession of Ajmal Pahari whatever his name, he confessed he was sent to India and trained from any Major Ravi.. those who never accepted Pakistan.

Sindhis don't want discrimination with you, it's within you.. you guys started it & everybody followed the same thing..In 2008 Altaf Hussain said, Pathan (ANP) are Taaliban, we won't let them take over Karachi, and few days back the same ANP leadership went to Nine Zero and they all sat together against Taliban.. who's being fooled? I wonder why no MQM supporter question these things to Altaf Hussain?
first of all you go back before mqm became powerfull .. situation for urdu speakers was much worse ..govt jobs ,education was made almost impossible by imposing sindhi bureaucrats in urdu areas ... there is a SEPARATE domicile for Karachi born people .which was used to restrict number of admissions and govt recruitment...
no body told us these things our elders have FACED them ...
ever since MQM is strong it has improved for udru speakers .. and we don;t want any discrimination and ethnicity we didnt call ourselves mahajir .. the tittle was officialy given to us in 1981 census ?? I mean a new generation of urdu speakers were CALLED muhajir by the GOVT officially !!

and there are still many nationalists sindhis who believe we are not part of the sindh and should live like their slaves who let us live here, Mirza was a prime example ...

ANP themselves have acknowledged they used taliban muscle to settle in karachi now taliban are after them .. and AH was shouting about talibanization in khi from a long time no one did anything ...

for urdu speakers ethnic equality is very important and if other parties promise and deliver this,,no one would vote for MQM mafia
 

Wasif Hashmi

Voter (50+ posts)
tumhari tahrir aoor batoon say hi andaza ho jatahay tumhari tarbeat kaisay aoor kis nay ki hay,kitaboon kay hawalay main bhi daysakta hoonmagar mujhay yaqeen hay keh woh hawalay tumhari samajh main aaian gay nahin.
tumhari tahrir aoor batoon say hi andaza ho jatahay tumhari tarbeat kaisay aoor kis nay ki hay,kitaboon kay hawalay main bhi daysakta hoonmagar mujhay yaqeen hay keh woh hawalay tumhari samajh main aaian gay nahin.
jo jesci bat krta hu us ko wesi hi tehrir milti he jawab . mere dosro se argument bhi dekh le ..

when you talk about killing ME ,my family and MY society what you expect in return f''king flowers or a medal ??

ENDOF ! .
 

zeshaan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
jo jesci bat krta hu us ko wesi hi tehrir milti he jawab . mere dosro se argument bhi dekh le ..

when you talk about killing ME ,my family and MY society what you expect in return f''king flowers or a medal ??

ENDOF ! .

"f''king flowers or a medal " hi too bant rehay hoo pichlay 30 sal say,tum loog,aaor ki kia hay siwaay logoon ko marnay kay?
zara hisab bhi to karo keh kitnay medal aoor floer baant chkkay ho?
 

AyeshaK

Voter (50+ posts)
chief of army staf aor sadre pakistan ko kin bhool gaay ho jo muhajir tha aoor sirf uski wajah say tum loogoon ko itna ikhtiar mia tha?
pichlay 65 saloon say ham loog tumm logoon ko paal rahay hain haum,yeh kion bhool jatay ho.bas lafaz muhajir hi yaad aata hay har mooqa par tumhain,tumhari aksareat say pehlay yeh shahar roshanion ka shehar kehlata tha ab kia bana dia hay tum logoon nai isay,aik QATAL GAHH?

I asked you simple and straight questions and you didn't answer any one of them. Instead, you resorted to spewing more of your hatred (with a possessed look in your eyes, I am sure). You may have some form of education that allows you to read or write but unfortunately, that is pretty much it. You are incapable of "thinking," analyzing and coming up with logical conclusions. Hence, you are only good enough to be fed BS that you will readily regurgitate at the drop of the hat. Your mindless, hate filled rant makes you look silly and inadequate. You, an insignificat dum-dum of a "tool" do not matter. You deserve nothing but contempt.

Now, the only question in my mind is, why am I engaging you in a debate when clearly you are incapable of bringing anything to the table? Perhaps, I like to slap you (and likes of you) around to expose the emptiness of your brain. Perhaps, I want to spin you (and likes of you).....only to tip you over like a lopsided, disbalanced LATTU.....oh well, I had my fun.....BYE NOW!
 
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AyeshaK

Voter (50+ posts)
I tried to make the same point .... the discrimination agaisnt Urdu speakers is basic foundation and reason of mandate for MQM .... everyone says MQM must end but no one steps up to offer to represent urdu speakers ... no one speaks for discriminations ...
they gave you a SEPARATE domicile they dont consider you a part of sindh , and admissions and jobs are classified as karachi or sindh domicile ... these things would have continued and worsen if MQM didnt have seats in the House ..there are still many Zulfiqar mirzas who are waiting for their chance to CLAIM Karachi back from Urdu speakers

but now that MQM is involved in extortion and stuff ,Urdu speakers have no other option and idiots like above think Urdu speakers support violence and extortion

!! PTI had a chance but they took a line which majority of Karachiets don;t like i.e taliban apologies ,and they didn;t even campaigned in Khi . and not direct confrontation with MQM for whom everyone has a soft corner if not full support ..

True, there is discrimination against Urdu speaking people but MQM can not keep on exploiting it. Do you think it is okay to do wrong because Urdu speaking have nowhere to go and hence they will keep coming back to you? Although, this worked for sometime but not anymore. As we do have an alternative in the form of PTI now. We finally managed to shed our apprehensions, the "what ifs?". The problems you listed are facts and we expect and trust PTI to resolve them. Just do what is "FAIR" for everyone. Just make one law for all. Same opportunities (based on merit) and same accountibility for all and nothing else.

People of Karachi are educated and enlightened - they did not vote for MQM because they wanted an Urdu Speaking Bhutto, Bugti, Khar, Shahi Syed or Sharif to worship. MQM was created for a "reason". You fail the reason, you fail to get support - and that is that.
 
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