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Why most Female TV Anchors and Actresses do not wear Dupatta?
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nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
sowwie. will do.
nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Why most Femal TV anchors and Actresses not wear Dupatta?
Nope. I KNOW I've awaken from the fundamentalism that was taught to every child of 90s Pakistan and I have stepped into intellectual liberty.
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Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
Personally, wearing a dupatta by news casters will be a good trend setter for Pakistan. It is something which is part of the culture of Pakistan, and should be promoted.
nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
Did anyone else also notice that 'dopataless' is also an anagram of 'Da Topless'. Talk about some Freudian Slip.
Re: Why most Femal TV anchors and Actresses not wear Dupatta?
بھائی آپ امریکا میں رہ کر اپنی مرضی کی زندگی نہیں گزار سکتے چاہے آپ انسان سے جانور ہی کیوں نہ بننا پسند کریں . بن سکتے ہیں مگر اس کہ بھی کئی قاعدے اور قوانین ہیں جن کو ہر حال میں ملہوز خاطر رکھا جاتا ہے ورنہ لگ پتا جاتا ہے اس کدنیاوی قانون کہتے ہیں اور جو اللہ پاک کے احکامت ہیں جسے نبی رحمت محمد مصطفیٰ نے عملی طور پر ہمارے سامنے پیش کیا اسے احکامی الہی. شریعت اور قانون کہتے ہیں.کیسی حیرانگی ہے بندوں کے بنے قانون کی ہم پاسداری کریں زمادار ٹھریں اور جس کے ہم بندے ہیں اس کے قوانین کی دچیاں اڑانے والوں پر اصلاح کے زمرے میں تنقید بھی گوارہ نہ کریں. رہی بات یہ کہ الله صرف نہ ماننے والے کو پوچھے گا تو اپنی پسند کے مفتی صاحب سے پوچھ لیجے گا کیا عمل کرنے والے ذمدار نہ ہوں گے اگر ہاں تو کتنے اور کیوں ؟ جواب مل جائے گا براہے کرم دنیوی خیالات و معاملات کاکیچڑ دین متین کی طرف منسوب نہ کیا کریں
بھائی آپ امریکا میں رہ کر اپنی مرضی کی زندگی نہیں گزار سکتے چاہے آپ انسان سے جانور ہی کیوں نہ بننا پسند کریں . بن سکتے ہیں مگر اس کہ بھی کئی قاعدے اور قوانین ہیں جن کو ہر حال میں ملہوز خاطر رکھا جاتا ہے ورنہ لگ پتا جاتا ہے اس کدنیاوی قانون کہتے ہیں اور جو اللہ پاک کے احکامت ہیں جسے نبی رحمت محمد مصطفیٰ نے عملی طور پر ہمارے سامنے پیش کیا اسے احکامی الہی. شریعت اور قانون کہتے ہیں.کیسی حیرانگی ہے بندوں کے بنے قانون کی ہم پاسداری کریں زمادار ٹھریں اور جس کے ہم بندے ہیں اس کے قوانین کی دچیاں اڑانے والوں پر اصلاح کے زمرے میں تنقید بھی گوارہ نہ کریں. رہی بات یہ کہ الله صرف نہ ماننے والے کو پوچھے گا تو اپنی پسند کے مفتی صاحب سے پوچھ لیجے گا کیا عمل کرنے والے ذمدار نہ ہوں گے اگر ہاں تو کتنے اور کیوں ؟ جواب مل جائے گا براہے کرم دنیوی خیالات و معاملات کاکیچڑ دین متین کی طرف منسوب نہ کیا کریں
Quicqsolution
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Why most Femal TV anchors and Actresses not wear Dupatta?
لیکن نواز شریف کی بیٹی تو بھاگ ہی گئی تھی جو ڈوپٹہ سر سے اتارتی بھی نہیں تھی۔
nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
Since when is dopata or lack thereof a moral yardstick for goodness? Since when?
My friend try to understand this point:
In societies where trivial aspects like dress codes are made big issues and matters on which masses are dictated upon, such societies are on path of self-destructing fundamentalism.
No benefit comes out of imposting a fictitious standard of decency e.g. 'dopatta on newscasters heads'. Nowhere in the 'normal' world does it happen.
By siding on the inapplicable grounds of morality, modesty or decency over this issue, all you are doing it strenthening the fundamentalists agenda.
Trivialities of dress code is NOT something that nations dictate to their masses. At least 'normal' nations. Pakistan has already become almost 'Fundamentalistan' - young people like you and me must be clear about what we want Pakistan to really be.
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nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Why most Femal TV anchors and Actresses not wear Dupatta?
LOL. PTI v. PML-N fight even gets in to dopatta issue.
Is there anywhere that this rivalry won't go?!
LOL. PTI v. PML-N fight even gets in to dopatta issue.
Is there anywhere that this rivalry won't go?!
sarbakaf
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Quicqsolution
Senator (1k+ posts)
Re: Why most Femal TV anchors and Actresses not wear Dupatta?
حجاب میں امریکیوں کہ ساتھ ڈانس پارٹی کرنے کے حوالہ سے بھی تھوڑی رہنمائی بھی کر لیں۔ شکریہ۔
Ab aap nai kah hi dia tu mujhe bhi kuch kahana pareh ga, otherwise, I wouldn't get involved in this thread.
She is not wearing Hijab because her full head is not covered, it is like a fashion statement. She has no intentions of cover her body either, because despite wearing two "Dupattas" her cleavage area is still open and visible.
You could call her a poser nothing more than that, she is trying to fool people. It is better if she doesn't bother at all.
حجاب میں امریکیوں کہ ساتھ ڈانس پارٹی کرنے کے حوالہ سے بھی تھوڑی رہنمائی بھی کر لیں۔ شکریہ۔
jubairkhan
New Member
The Question of Hijab: Suppression Or Liberation?
"Why do Muslim women have to cover their heads?" This question is one which is asked by Muslim and non-Muslim alike. For many women it is the truest test of being a Muslim.
The answer to the question is very simple - Muslim women observe HIJAB (covering the head and the body) because Allah has told them to do so.
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed..." [Noble Quran 33:59]
Other secondary reasons include the requirement for modesty in both men and women. Both will then be evaluated for intelligence and skills instead of looks and sexuality. An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, "We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks." A Muslim woman who covers her head is making a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Many Muslim women who cover are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as a Muslim woman. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out.
The question of Hijab for Muslim women has been a controversy for centuries and will probably continue for many more. Some learned people do not consider the subject open to discussion and consider that covering the face is required, while a majority are of the opinion that it is not required. A middle line position is taken by some who claim that the instructions are vague and open to individual discretion depending on the situation. The wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were required to cover their faces so that men would not think of them in sexual terms since they were the "Mothers of the Believers," but this requirement was not extended to other women.
The word "Hijab" comes from the Arabic word "hajaba" meaning to hide from view or conceal. In the present time, the context of Hijab is the modest covering of a Muslim woman. The question now is what is the extent of the covering? The Quran says:
"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." [Noble Quran 24:30-31]
These verses from the Quran contain two main injunctions:
A woman should not show her beauty or adornments except what appears by uncontrolled factors such as the wind blowing her clothes, and
the head covers should be drawn so as to cover the hair, the neck and the bosom.
Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met. The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered. Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Quran, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind. The following is a Tradition of the Prophet:
"Ayshah reported that Asma' the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma'! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not properthat anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to theface and hands." [Abu Dawud]
The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary. Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) stated that in later generations of his Ummah there would be
"women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed." [Muslim]
Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman. In addition there are other requirements:
Women must not dress so as to appear as men.
"Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.'" [Bukhari]
Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.
The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.
Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to Hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear Hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life. Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being. The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.
For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner.
III&E Brochure Series
(Published by The Institute of Islamic Information and Education (III&E) and reproduced in electronic form by Islamic Academy for Scientific Research with permission)
"Why do Muslim women have to cover their heads?" This question is one which is asked by Muslim and non-Muslim alike. For many women it is the truest test of being a Muslim.
The answer to the question is very simple - Muslim women observe HIJAB (covering the head and the body) because Allah has told them to do so.
"O Prophet, tell your wives and daughters and the believing women to draw their outer garments around them (when they go out or are among men). That is better in order that they may be known (to be Muslims) and not annoyed..." [Noble Quran 33:59]
Other secondary reasons include the requirement for modesty in both men and women. Both will then be evaluated for intelligence and skills instead of looks and sexuality. An Iranian school girl is quoted as saying, "We want to stop men from treating us like sex objects, as they have always done. We want them to ignore our appearance and to be attentive to our personalities and mind. We want them to take us seriously and treat us as equals and not just chase us around for our bodies and physical looks." A Muslim woman who covers her head is making a statement about her identity. Anyone who sees her will know that she is a Muslim and has a good moral character. Many Muslim women who cover are filled with dignity and self esteem; they are pleased to be identified as a Muslim woman. As a chaste, modest, pure woman, she does not want her sexuality to enter into interactions with men in the smallest degree. A woman who covers herself is concealing her sexuality but allowing her femininity to be brought out.
The question of Hijab for Muslim women has been a controversy for centuries and will probably continue for many more. Some learned people do not consider the subject open to discussion and consider that covering the face is required, while a majority are of the opinion that it is not required. A middle line position is taken by some who claim that the instructions are vague and open to individual discretion depending on the situation. The wives of the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) were required to cover their faces so that men would not think of them in sexual terms since they were the "Mothers of the Believers," but this requirement was not extended to other women.
The word "Hijab" comes from the Arabic word "hajaba" meaning to hide from view or conceal. In the present time, the context of Hijab is the modest covering of a Muslim woman. The question now is what is the extent of the covering? The Quran says:
"Say to the believing man that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that will make for greater purity for them; and Allah is well acquainted with all that they do. And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; and that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what must ordinarily appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands..." [Noble Quran 24:30-31]
These verses from the Quran contain two main injunctions:
A woman should not show her beauty or adornments except what appears by uncontrolled factors such as the wind blowing her clothes, and
the head covers should be drawn so as to cover the hair, the neck and the bosom.
Islam has no fixed standard as to the style of dress or type of clothing that Muslims must wear. However, some requirements must be met. The first of these requirements is the parts of the body which must be covered. Islam has two sources for guidance and rulings: first, the Quran, the revealed word of Allah and secondly, the Hadith or the traditions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) who was chosen by Allah to be the role model for mankind. The following is a Tradition of the Prophet:
"Ayshah reported that Asma' the daughter of Abu Bakr came to the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) while wearing thin clothing. He approached her and said: 'O Asma'! When a girl reaches the menstrual age, it is not properthat anything should remain exposed except this and this. He pointed to theface and hands." [Abu Dawud]
The second requirement is looseness. The clothing must be loose enough so as not to describe the shape of the woman's body. One desirable way to hide the shape of the body is to wear a cloak over other clothes. However, if the clothing is loose enough, an outer garment is not necessary. Thickness is the third requirement. The clothing must be thick enough so as not to show the color of the skin it covers or the shape of the body. The Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) stated that in later generations of his Ummah there would be
"women who would be dressed but naked and on top of their heads (what looks like) camel humps. Curse them for they are truly cursed." [Muslim]
Another requirement is an over-all dignified appearance. The clothing should not attract men's attention to the woman. It should not be shiny and flashy so that everyone notices the dress and the woman. In addition there are other requirements:
Women must not dress so as to appear as men.
"Ibn Abbas narrated: 'The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) cursed the men who appear like women and the women who appear like men.'" [Bukhari]
Women should not dress in a way similar to the unbelievers.
The clothing should be modest, not excessively fancy and also not excessively ragged to gain others admiration or sympathy.
Often forgotten is the fact that modern Western dress is a new invention. Looking at the clothing of women as recently as seventy years ago, we see clothing similar to Hijab. These active and hard-working women of the West were not inhibited by their clothing which consisted of long, full dresses and various types of head covering. Muslim women who wear Hijab do not find it impractical or interfering with their activities in all levels and walks of life. Hijab is not merely a covering dress but more importantly, it is behavior, manners, speech and appearance in public. Dress is only one facet of the total being. The basic requirement of the Muslim woman's dress apply to the Muslim man's clothing with the difference being mainly in degree. Modesty requires that the area between the navel and the knee be covered in front of all people except the wife. The clothing of men should not be like the dress of women, nor should it be tight or provocative. A Muslim should dress to show his identity as a Muslim. Men are not allowed to wear gold or silk. However, both are allowed for women.
For both men and women, clothing requirements are not meant to be a restriction but rather a way in which society will function in a proper, Islamic manner.
III&E Brochure Series
(Published by The Institute of Islamic Information and Education (III&E) and reproduced in electronic form by Islamic Academy for Scientific Research with permission)
nvra911
MPA (400+ posts)
Fatema
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
just like traffic laws or any other laws, one should abide by moral laws as well by wearing decent respectable clothes in the public places. I believe by wearing modest clothes one look digified and attract less curious stares. As for anchors not taking dupatta, can't say whats the reason behind but m sure while going home after work, they must be wearing it as our streets are not safe to roam abt without dupattas.
No this is called nakednewsanchors.com
Technocrat
MPA (400+ posts)
With all due respect, I'm talking about setting trends, not dress codes. Yes, hijab is being fundamentalist, because IT IS FUNDAMENTAL; It is one of the pillars of "Haya", and has nothing to do with extremism. I guess you need to read the Qur'an before making such statements of dress codes on moral grounds.
And what world are you talking about? If the world is drinking wine, you will start drinking too? If the world is eating pork, you will start eating too? If the world is wearing bikinis, will you let your counter parts wear it as well? If the world is legalizing same gender marriage, will you legalize it too?
Muslims are called Muslims because of their belief in Qur'an, and people like you should be reading the Qur'an in great detail before coming to such insane reasoning. We also need to learn a great detail from Sulah Hudaibiyah and how the Muslims were able to attract people to Islam due to such values and traditions.
PkRevolution
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Answere is simple, they don't care what Allah says in Quran.
Answere is simple, they don't care what Allah says in Quran.
Unicorn
Banned
Kid, violating traffic rules life one puts his/HER(bigsmile) life in jeopardy and you get fine or suspended licence for violating them. There are many vast majority of " secular " countries are based on Morals if it puts the live of another person in danger. All morals cannot to legislated. This is your lesson for today :):)
off topic post, trying to derail the issue.......that's a topic for a separate thread..........
p.s.: sarcasm emoticon not available.......
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