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Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
کیوں عدلیہ مر گئی ہے کیا جس نے خود اسے باہر جانے کی اجازت دی تھی؟ ان کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے؟
اندر کریں ضمانتیوں کو اور اٹارنی جنرل سے کہیں کہ وزارت خارجہ کے ساتھ مل کر حکومت برطانیہ سے بات کریں
First of all, government needs to look towards itself. Why didn’t government file appeal in SC against the verdict of LHC? In Shehbaz’s case, LHC again ordered to remove his name from blacklist and let him go abroad. Government didn’t allow him to travel abroad. Rather , it filed appeal in SC.


What happened then? SS couldn’t go abroad and LHC couldn’t pluck a hair of government for that ‘apparent contempt of court’.

Why SC wasn’t called for rescue/guidance in Nawaz’s case? The answer is that this was deliberately done. Reason is any of the two. Either government got afraid that if Nawaz died in Pakistan, they will be held responsible. Or, there was pressure from GHQ to let Nawaz go and not to take matter to SC.

Let’s assume that both LHC and IHC are favoring Sharif family ( Maryam is on indefinite bail in Ramzan Sugar Mills case and also on indefinite bail in Al Azizia reference due to her appeal pending before IHC). What is stopping government to file an application in IHC for expedited hearing of Maryam’s appeal so that either she goes back to jail or, if acquitted, government can then file appeal in SC? My feeling is that she is being deliberately kept out of prison at the pressure of certain powerful quarters. There is a minimum-level of understanding between establishment and Sharif clan. Maryam’s roaming freely and Nawaz’s going abroad is part of that ‘understanding’.
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Because Nawaz belongs to Punjab and Army can’t ignore the sentiments of its officers and Jawans belonging to Punjab. Altaf Hussain belonged to a marginalized community.
Yet the entire army brood stood in unison behind Musharraf, who hailed from the “marginalized”community, when he decided to take over. The key doesn’t lie in ones ethnicity as much as it lies in the practice of dissemination of ill gotten pelf through higher echelons of army corps, which Sharifs are so adept in. Had Altaf Hussain learnt this art earlier on, he would also be enjoying his godfather status in Karachi today.
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
کیوں عدلیہ مر گئی ہے کیا جس نے خود اسے باہر جانے کی اجازت دی تھی؟ ان کے بارے میں کیا خیال ہے؟
اندر کریں ضمانتیوں کو اور اٹارنی جنرل سے کہیں کہ وزارت خارجہ کے ساتھ مل کر حکومت برطانیہ سے بات کریں
When it comes to matters of national security, ISPR has to respond, not an illiterate registrar of the sold out courts of this banana republic.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
When it comes to matters of national security, ISPR has to respond, not an illiterate registrar of the sold out courts of this banana republic.
Principally, you are right, but technically, AJK is a self governed state. Pakistan Army cannot exercise control on such matters.

A better way should be that AJK's court should take suo moto action against such culprits of treason. Their constitution allows it.

Alternatively, our courts should twist some limbs of their head aka God Father.
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Principally, you are right, but technically, AJK is a self governed state. Pakistan Army cannot exercise control on such matters.

A better way should be that AJK's court should take suo moto action against such culprits of treason. Their constitution allows it.

Alternatively, our courts should twist some limbs of their head aka God Father.
No, I was referring to ISPR’s statement on Khoti Sharif’s meeting with the Afghan pig.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
First of all, government needs to look towards itself. Why didn’t government file appeal in SC against the verdict of LHC? In Shehbaz’s case, LHC again ordered to remove his name from blacklist and let him go abroad. Government didn’t allow him to travel abroad. Rather , it filed appeal in SC.


What happened then? SS couldn’t go abroad and LHC couldn’t pluck a hair of government for that ‘apparent contempt of court’.

Why SC wasn’t called for rescue/guidance in Nawaz’s case? The answer is that this was deliberately done. Reason is any of the two. Either government got afraid that if Nawaz died in Pakistan, they will be held responsible. Or, there was pressure from GHQ to let Nawaz go and not to take matter to SC.

Let’s assume that both LHC and IHC are favoring Sharif family ( Maryam is on indefinite bail in Ramzan Sugar Mills case and also on indefinite bail in Al Azizia reference due to her appeal pending before IHC). What is stopping government to file an application in IHC for expedited hearing of Maryam’s appeal so that either she goes back to jail or, if acquitted, government can then file appeal in SC? My feeling is that she is being deliberately kept out of prison at the pressure of certain powerful quarters. There is a minimum-level of understanding between establishment and Sharif clan. Maryam’s roaming freely and Nawaz’s going abroad is part of that ‘understanding’.
You are right, this "great escape" was a result of a backdoor NRO, which the Govt and the establishment gave to PMLN.

However, I will, with due respect, digress from the POV that the Govt shall file an appeal in SC, in NS case. The arrow has left the bow and there is nothing which can be done, except than either contacting Interpol or getting a direct treaty with UK Govt for the exchange of such absconders.

But, how Sheikh Rasheed had been handling the situation, it appears the GHQ has not given a green signal on any such action. I cannot understand what they are waiting for, now?
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
No, I was referring to ISPR’s statement on Khoti Sharif’s meeting with the Afghan pig.
There again, anything outside the bounds of Pakistan is not the headache of Army. Our FO should respond. However, as being in UK and within his personal capacity, NS enjoys the freedom of movement and association, unless it is proven that they are plotting something against Pakistan.
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
There again, anything outside the bounds of Pakistan is not the headache of Army. Our FO should respond. However, as being in UK and within his personal capacity, NS enjoys the freedom of movement and association, unless it is proven that they are plotting something against Pakistan.
Shuja sahab, countries with conviction and resolve behave proactively when it comes to national security. Israel , US or Russia take care of such menace preemptively, while we are bickering over proof whether this Ahole was plotting ill or not.
 

Hussain1967

Minister (2k+ posts)
You are right, this "great escape" was a result of a backdoor NRO, which the Govt and the establishment gave to PMLN.

However, I will, with due respect, digress from the POV that the Govt shall file an appeal in SC, in NS case. The arrow has left the bow and there is nothing which can be done, except than either contacting Interpol or getting a direct treaty with UK Govt for the exchange of such absconders.

But, how Sheikh Rasheed had been handling the situation, it appears the GHQ has not given a green signal on any such action. I cannot understand what they are waiting for, now?
Nothing concrete can be done now in case of Nawaz. However, lot can still be done in case of Maryam. She can be sent back to jail to serve her remaining six and a half years of imprisonment in Al Azizia case. But, government wouldn’t do this. You know, why? Because GHQ wants her roam freely. She isn’t coming into power anytime soon but she isn’t going back to jail either. This is the minimum-level understanding ( one can call it mini NRO) that Shehbaz Sharif has arranged for Nawaz and Maryam.
 
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Gujjar1

Senator (1k+ posts)
Ye khanzeer kidi gujjar ki satt to ho sakta hai per gujjar nahi , bilkul khanzeer kairey ki tarha. Is ko pack ker Modi baap ko parcel ker daina chahiye.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Shuja sahab, countries with conviction and resolve behave proactively when it comes to national security. Israel , US or Russia take care of such menace preemptively, while we are bickering over proof whether this Ahole was plotting ill or not.
Well, whether he is plotting against Pakistan or not, is another ball game of intelligence and will not come into limelight, specially through ISPR.

In all the countries you have mentioned, not everything is done by forces, their whole State works. It is a pity that in Pakistan, everything has to be shouldered by Army.

The open arrangement of NS to hold a meeting with anti Pakistan elements is a diplomatic move and should be reciprocated by our foreign office in the same fervor. They can easily issue a statement regarding India and Afghanistan and their tactical move to enjoin hands with the declared criminals and absconders.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Nothing concrete can be done now in case of Nawaz.
If there is a will, there is a way. I will leave this point with this notion.

However, lot can still be done in case of Maryam. She can be sent back to jail to serve her remaining six and a half years of imprisonment in Al Azizia case. But, government wouldn’t do this. You know, why? Because GHQ wants her roam freely. She isn’t coming into power anytime sooner but she isn’t going back to jail either. This is the minimum-level understanding ( one can call it mini NRO) that Shehbaz Sharif has arranged for Nawaz and Maryam.
Agreed!
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Well, whether he is plotting against Pakistan or not, is another ball game of intelligence and will not come into limelight, specially through ISPR.

In all the countries you have mentioned, not everything is done by forces, their whole State works. It is a pity that in Pakistan, everything has to be shouldered by Army.

The open arrangement of NS to hold a meeting with anti Pakistan elements is a diplomatic move and should be reciprocated by our foreign office in the same fervor. They can easily issue a statement regarding India and Afghanistan and their tactical move to enjoin hands with the declared absconders.
I respectfully disagree. Matters pertaining to India and Afghanistan tantamount to security threat for Pakistan. Please do not annex these two with the rest of the world. ISPR if not alone, must have issued a joint statement with the Foreign office regarding this meeting.
 

Haha

Minister (2k+ posts)
مودی ساری رات جاگ کر اس کتے کے بچے کے فون کا انتظار کرتا رہا کہ کب یہ فون کرے اور اپنی ماں کے خصم مودی سے کہے کہ میں زلیل ہوکر کتےاور سور کی طرح ہار گیا ہوں تم فوری پاکستان پر حملہ کردو
مگر اس نے فون ہیُ نہیں کیا اور اس کا ناجائز پیو مودی ساری رات جاگ کر انتظار کرتا رہا کہ کب یہ فون کرے اور کب وہ حملہ کرے
لیکن ساری رات برداشت کے بعد صبح صبح اپنی بچپن کی عادت اور اوقات کے مطابق مودی کو ساری رات کے انتظار کے بعد ریلوے لائن پر جاکر سرجیکل سٹرائک کرنا پڑی
 
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