Su-57: If Turkey could get it, why can't we

kakamuna420

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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A future deal on Russia’s Su-57 fighter jet has seemingly been brought up by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, after his host, President Vladimir Putin, impressed him with the fifth-generation jet at the MAKS 2019 airshow.

The two leaders inspected a Su-57 and peeked into its cockpit on the ground after attending the opening of the biannual airshow outside Moscow. While the export variant of the 5th-gen fighter is being displayed at the show for the first time, its domestic model entered serial production earlier this year.


Erdogan wondered if the plane was already airworthy, which the Russian president confirmed. The Turkish leader then asked if it was possible to buy it. Putin responded in affirmative, with the two sharing a laugh thereafter.

While the discussion appeared to be a light-hearted exchange, Turkey has in fact been seeking a new supplier to reinforce its ageing air force fleet. Washington excluded Ankara from the F-35 program earlier this year in response to Russia delivering S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey. The US claimed that its 5th gen jets might be compromised by the mere presence of the S-400s.

While the discussion appeared to be a light-hearted exchange, Turkey has in fact been seeking a new supplier to reinforce its ageing air force fleet. Washington excluded Ankara from the F-35 program earlier this year in response to Russia delivering S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey. The US claimed that its 5th gen jets might be compromised by the mere presence of the S-400s.

Earlier this month, Turkish media reported that its military is assessing the prospect of purchasing another type of Russian fighter jet, the Su-35.

 
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Assasin's

Senator (1k+ posts)
It's economy stupid (not saying stupid to you but it's a phrase) Countries like UK, Sweden won't hesitate in selling their top notch fighters like Typhoon and gripen (similar to jf 17) if we have enough money to buy them in bulk....
 

Assasin's

Senator (1k+ posts)
Regardless of economy, main issue with buying the fighters from other countries is that you are always dependent on the seller for upgradation and it's not guaranteed that you always gonna have good relations with countries where seller is located...
 

disgusted

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Pakistan should try working building engines and avionics at home. They should not be dependent on defense on anyone. My 2 cents.
Excellent suggestion. We will need a big amount of money to do that. As a priority shoot the NAB and ECP heads and get the money stolen by haramkhor zalleel Ganjas and Murdari. If they do not, make them face a firing squad. Desperate times need desperate measures. For a side show make a list of the corrupt judges and hang them in front of their respective courts.
 

Aslan

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Russian is not willing to sell us advanced weapons due to Indian blackmail.India is a major buyer of Russian weapons.Russian defence industry needs lucrative markets like India to survive.India is slowly moving towards the west(US,France,Israel etc) for its weapons.Turkey's case is different.Turkey's economy is far better than ours.Secondly Russia wants to create rifts between NATO countries because disunity among NATO countries benefits Russia.Russia sells fighters to Egypt and Indonesia too.The simple solution for Pakistan is to fix its economy.When our economy is strong then countries will come to us to sell us their goods.
 

pktunn

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
A future deal on Russia’s Su-57 fighter jet has seemingly been brought up by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, after his host, President Vladimir Putin, impressed him with the fifth-generation jet at the MAKS 2019 airshow.

The two leaders inspected a Su-57 and peeked into its cockpit on the ground after attending the opening of the biannual airshow outside Moscow. While the export variant of the 5th-gen fighter is being displayed at the show for the first time, its domestic model entered serial production earlier this year.


Erdogan wondered if the plane was already airworthy, which the Russian president confirmed. The Turkish leader then asked if it was possible to buy it. Putin responded in affirmative, with the two sharing a laugh thereafter.

While the discussion appeared to be a light-hearted exchange, Turkey has in fact been seeking a new supplier to reinforce its ageing air force fleet. Washington excluded Ankara from the F-35 program earlier this year in response to Russia delivering S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey. The US claimed that its 5th gen jets might be compromised by the mere presence of the S-400s.

While the discussion appeared to be a light-hearted exchange, Turkey has in fact been seeking a new supplier to reinforce its ageing air force fleet. Washington excluded Ankara from the F-35 program earlier this year in response to Russia delivering S-400 anti-aircraft missile systems to Turkey. The US claimed that its 5th gen jets might be compromised by the mere presence of the S-400s.

Earlier this month, Turkish media reported that its military is assessing the prospect of purchasing another type of Russian fighter jet, the Su-35.


better get it on loan and don't pay the loan.as per guide lines of khadim hussain rizvi .
lo aya jo ghauri .......???
 

pktunn

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Russian is not willing to sell us advanced weapons due to Indian blackmail.India is a major buyer of Russian weapons.Russian defence industry needs lucrative markets like India to survive.India is slowly moving towards the west(US,France,Israel etc) for its weapons.Turkey's case is different.Turkey's economy is far better than ours.Secondly Russia wants to create rifts between NATO countries because disunity among NATO countries benefits Russia.Russia sells fighters to Egypt and Indonesia too.The simple solution for Pakistan is to fix its economy.When our economy is strong then countries will come to us to sell us their goods.

mazor problem is money bhaya
 

Fawad Javed

Minister (2k+ posts)
Good idea but include Corrupt Army officials as well
Excellent suggestion. We will need a big amount of money to do that. As a priority shoot the NAB and ECP heads and get the money stolen by haramkhor zalleel Ganjas and Murdari. If they do not, make them face a firing squad. Desperate times need desperate measures. For a side show make a list of the corrupt judges and hang them in front of their respective courts.