hawk eyed
MPA (400+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
jtna zulm kya us ne ye mout mange aur ise mout na mile
he should not die like this...
jtna zulm kya us ne ye mout mange aur ise mout na mile
Altaf being sick hospitalised in London
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Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Altaf Hussain Crticical & Division in MQM
Bas bhai bas jo chaachoo nay Farmaa diya Farmaa diya....Full Stop.(serious)
Bas bhai bas jo chaachoo nay Farmaa diya Farmaa diya....Full Stop.(serious)
Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
Let him get lost as earlier as possible..... .... Baqi hisaab aagay ho ga.
omerkashmiri
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
Altaf kay marnay pay khabar aaye gi ---------Khas kam jahan Pak
Altaf kay marnay pay khabar aaye gi ---------Khas kam jahan Pak
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
بھائی بڑا مسلئہ پیش آگیا ہے، میں سوچ رھا ہوں کی اب مہوش بی بی ، سپارکٹس،علی آریان، اور باقی کرائے کے ٹٹو کیا کریں گے ۔ انکی نوکری کو تو سخت خطرہ در پیش ہے، کیوں کہ ساری متحدہ تو زیر زمین جا چکی ہے، اب انکو تنخواہ کون دے گا۔ میرا مشورہ ہے کہ ان تمام صاحبان اور صاحبات کو اب کچھ اور کام ڈھونڈ لینا چاھئیے، نہیں تو چند روز میں فاقوں کا خطرہ ہے۔
بھائی بڑا مسلئہ پیش آگیا ہے، میں سوچ رھا ہوں کی اب مہوش بی بی ، سپارکٹس،علی آریان، اور باقی کرائے کے ٹٹو کیا کریں گے ۔ انکی نوکری کو تو سخت خطرہ در پیش ہے، کیوں کہ ساری متحدہ تو زیر زمین جا چکی ہے، اب انکو تنخواہ کون دے گا۔ میرا مشورہ ہے کہ ان تمام صاحبان اور صاحبات کو اب کچھ اور کام ڈھونڈ لینا چاھئیے، نہیں تو چند روز میں فاقوں کا خطرہ ہے۔
omerkashmiri
Siasat.pk - Blogger
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
جن کا قلم براے فروخت ہو وہ کبھی بھوکے نہیں مرتے
جن کا قلم براے فروخت ہو وہ کبھی بھوکے نہیں مرتے
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
Muttahida Qaumi Movement Chief Altaf Hussain has been put under virtual house arrests and his passport held by British authorities after a botched escape attempt from United Kingdom, sources have confirmed adding that Altaf had been warned of being jailed if he tried to flee again.
The house arrest, at the residence of one of Altaf Hussain’s friends, did not prompt any strong reaction from MQM Pakistan and London leadership, who stayed mum on the entire episode and avoided categorical statements.
Ummat sources in London have shed light on the background of new developments.
British authorities began investigation and kept a tab on Altaf Hussain since December 2010 when they had arrested an important suspect in Imran Farooq murder case, they said. The suspect, who was nabbed on tip-off from Farooq loyalists in the party and his widow Shumaila, had watched over the slain MQM leader and noted his schedule to provide it to the hitmen, according to sources.
The man, they said, is very close to Altaf Hussain and operated outside the party structure alongside the head of South Africa-based A team and Khalid Shamim, the key man leading terrorist and intelligence wing of MQM spread over Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Dubai. “They and a few others in their group all reported directly to Altaf Husain,” said the sources.
The suspect arrest on 10 December 2010 by Scotland Yard belonged to the same group and he soon confessed to having received in London two hitmen from Pakistan and providing them with the routine of Imran Farooq, who was stabbed to death by them, sources say.
Name of Khalid Shamim also surfaced after this arrest and Scotland Yard contacted Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) to share its findings. The British authorities, under a plan, did not oppose bail request of London suspect, allowing him outside the jail to see who he comes into contact with.
The suspect and Khalid Shamim both were being monitored by British and Pakistani authorities, who patiently waited for evidence against Altaf Hussain, the prime suspect in the case, said the sources.
Meanwhile, the ISI searched for the two hitmen in Pakistan and was able to match sketches issued by British police with the data in PISCES entry-exit system at Pakistani airports, but since the pair had used fake travel documents the intelligence agency had to wait for further clues, according to sources.
Sources say, it was also in last December that Altaf Hussain felt unsafe at his London Secretariat and adjacent residence because he believed Imran Farooq loyalists might target him there. Altaf moved to a suburban London home, which was only known to a taxi driver – a man with white appearance but in reality a Pakistani.
Altaf would not come at the London Secretariat except for high profile meeting and gave his telephone sermons from the secret location, sources in London have confirmed adding that by the time Altaf did not trust even his own group in the MQM and only relied on the taxi driver, who ironically had come into contact with Scotland Yard.
Also in December MQM told Pakistani government that people within in the party had become threat for Altaf Hussain and it must act against them, but the demand was not entertained as Pakistani institutions were aware of the background development.
Sources say influential Pakistani-Britons including two lawyers got information from their own sources that a ‘breakthrough’ was imminent on Altaf Hussain chapter. One of the lawyer also helped Scotland Yard gather evidence.
Altaf Hussain also got some hints but believed that the investigation in Britain was result of reports sent from Pakistan’s Federal Investigation Agency and Intelligence Bureau to UK authorities. Feeling politically insecure and under threat from Imran Farooq group, an irritant Altaf Hussain planned violence in Karachi in case Britian acted against him, but since Pakistani and British authorities were electronically listening to Altaf’s close quarters, terrorists were arrested when they landed in Karachi from South Africa- a move that shocked MQM, claim the sources.
A source says Altaf Hussain was now being held at a Wrexham home in Berkshire and Khalid Shamim was arrested from Dubai and transferred to Pakistan after top ISI officials contacted Governor Sindh.
The British authorities are demanding extradition of Khalid Shamim, as he was wanted in a crime committed in the United Kingdom, but Pakistan first wanted to investigate him for terrorism in the country, said the sources.
http://ummatenglish.com/exclusive/2011/08/29/the-story-of-mqm-arrests.html#
sources
http://ummatenglish.com/exclusive/2011/08/29/the-story-of-mqm-arrests.html
Muttahida Qaumi Movement Chief Altaf Hussain has been put under virtual house arrests and his passport held by British authorities after a botched escape attempt from United Kingdom, sources have confirmed adding that Altaf had been warned of being jailed if he tried to flee again.
The house arrest, at the residence of one of Altaf Hussain’s friends, did not prompt any strong reaction from MQM Pakistan and London leadership, who stayed mum on the entire episode and avoided categorical statements.
Ummat sources in London have shed light on the background of new developments.
British authorities began investigation and kept a tab on Altaf Hussain since December 2010 when they had arrested an important suspect in Imran Farooq murder case, they said. The suspect, who was nabbed on tip-off from Farooq loyalists in the party and his widow Shumaila, had watched over the slain MQM leader and noted his schedule to provide it to the hitmen, according to sources.
The man, they said, is very close to Altaf Hussain and operated outside the party structure alongside the head of South Africa-based A team and Khalid Shamim, the key man leading terrorist and intelligence wing of MQM spread over Pakistan, South Africa, Sri Lanka and Dubai. “They and a few others in their group all reported directly to Altaf Husain,” said the sources.
The suspect arrest on 10 December 2010 by Scotland Yard belonged to the same group and he soon confessed to having received in London two hitmen from Pakistan and providing them with the routine of Imran Farooq, who was stabbed to death by them, sources say.
Name of Khalid Shamim also surfaced after this arrest and Scotland Yard contacted Pakistan’s Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) to share its findings. The British authorities, under a plan, did not oppose bail request of London suspect, allowing him outside the jail to see who he comes into contact with.
The suspect and Khalid Shamim both were being monitored by British and Pakistani authorities, who patiently waited for evidence against Altaf Hussain, the prime suspect in the case, said the sources.
Meanwhile, the ISI searched for the two hitmen in Pakistan and was able to match sketches issued by British police with the data in PISCES entry-exit system at Pakistani airports, but since the pair had used fake travel documents the intelligence agency had to wait for further clues, according to sources.
Sources say, it was also in last December that Altaf Hussain felt unsafe at his London Secretariat and adjacent residence because he believed Imran Farooq loyalists might target him there. Altaf moved to a suburban London home, which was only known to a taxi driver – a man with white appearance but in reality a Pakistani.
Altaf would not come at the London Secretariat except for high profile meeting and gave his telephone sermons from the secret location, sources in London have confirmed adding that by the time Altaf did not trust even his own group in the MQM and only relied on the taxi driver, who ironically had come into contact with Scotland Yard.
Also in December MQM told Pakistani government that people within in the party had become threat for Altaf Hussain and it must act against them, but the demand was not entertained as Pakistani institutions were aware of the background development.
Sources say influential Pakistani-Britons including two lawyers got information from their own sources that a ‘breakthrough’ was imminent on Altaf Hussain chapter. One of the lawyer also helped Scotland Yard gather evidence.
Altaf Hussain also got some hints but believed that the investigation in Britain was result of reports sent from Pakistan’s Federal Investigation Agency and Intelligence Bureau to UK authorities. Feeling politically insecure and under threat from Imran Farooq group, an irritant Altaf Hussain planned violence in Karachi in case Britian acted against him, but since Pakistani and British authorities were electronically listening to Altaf’s close quarters, terrorists were arrested when they landed in Karachi from South Africa- a move that shocked MQM, claim the sources.
A source says Altaf Hussain was now being held at a Wrexham home in Berkshire and Khalid Shamim was arrested from Dubai and transferred to Pakistan after top ISI officials contacted Governor Sindh.
The British authorities are demanding extradition of Khalid Shamim, as he was wanted in a crime committed in the United Kingdom, but Pakistan first wanted to investigate him for terrorism in the country, said the sources.
http://ummatenglish.com/exclusive/2011/08/29/the-story-of-mqm-arrests.html#
sources
http://ummatenglish.com/exclusive/2011/08/29/the-story-of-mqm-arrests.html
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
Mehwish, this is one of the most shameless attempts to justify a socially detestable practice of telling lies, I have seen in my life. How dare you use the Holy Quran to justify Shias abhorrent practice of telling lies known as Taqyia?
I will take Surah Imrans example first:
اَّ يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاء مِن دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلاَّ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللّهِ الْمَصِيرُ (3:28)
3:28 LET NOT the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers - since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything - unless it be to protect yourselves against them in this way. But God warns you to beware of Him: for with God is all journeys' end.
First of all the order is for not taking the non-Muslims as friends or allies, in preference to your Muslims brothers. Unless to protect yourself and your community from the non-Muslims, in that case advice given to be on good terms with them, to protect yourself and your family and Muslim community. This is the advice of the Holy Quran applicable for the Muslims living in West at present. They are not in power or majority, therefore, the better option is to be good terms with the majority in social context, even if you do not make them personal friends.
Zamakhshari explained it as meaning Unless you have reasons to fear that they might do something which ought to be guarded against. I.e. if they are more powerful and could cause damage to Muslims as a community.
مَن كَفَرَ بِاللّهِ مِن بَعْدِ إيمَانِهِ إِلاَّ مَنْ أُكْرِهَ وَقَلْبُهُ مُطْمَئِنٌّ بِالإِيمَانِ وَلَـكِن مَّن شَرَحَ بِالْكُفْرِ صَدْرًا فَعَلَيْهِمْ غَضَبٌ مِّنَ اللّهِ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ (16:106)
16:106 As for anyone who denies God after having once attained to faith-and this, to be sure, does not apply to one who does it under duress, the while his heart remains true to his faith, but [only, to] him who willingly opens up his heart to a denial of the truth-: upon all such [falls] God's condemnation, and tremendous suffering awaits them:
I am so shocked for you to use this verse of the Holy Quran for your vain desires and justify the abhorrent practice of deliberate lies that I cannot explain it in words.
It is for those who is coerced, that while his heart is rest in his faith, i.e. he is a Muslim and carry his faith dear, but due to the fear of his life, under torture or threat for death, pronounced that he has not attained to faith. Or ostensibly recant to save himself.
But one should not forget that Holy Quran makes it clear at many places martyrdom in the cause of faith is highly desirable to Allah SWT.
In that context the Holy Quran decreed:
2:233 No human being shall be burdened with more than he is well able to bear: neither shall a mother be made to suffer because of her child, nor, because of his child, he who has begotten it. (Partial verse quoted)
So, Allah SWT does not burden any human more than he/she can bear. If one cannot bear the agony of torture or cannot bear the pain and/or the mental torture and trauma of facing possible death.
There are many verses in the Holy Quran with same message.
Nowhere the Holy Quran allows, orders or recommend using lies in normal course of life.
May Allah SWT give you guidance.
Mehwish, this is one of the most shameless attempts to justify a socially detestable practice of telling lies, I have seen in my life. How dare you use the Holy Quran to justify Shias abhorrent practice of telling lies known as Taqyia?
I will take Surah Imrans example first:
اَّ يَتَّخِذِ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ الْكَافِرِينَ أَوْلِيَاء مِن دُوْنِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَمَن يَفْعَلْ ذَلِكَ فَلَيْسَ مِنَ اللّهِ فِي شَيْءٍ إِلاَّ أَن تَتَّقُواْ مِنْهُمْ تُقَاةً وَيُحَذِّرُكُمُ اللّهُ نَفْسَهُ وَإِلَى اللّهِ الْمَصِيرُ (3:28)
3:28 LET NOT the believers take those who deny the truth for their allies in preference to the believers - since he who does this cuts himself off from God in everything - unless it be to protect yourselves against them in this way. But God warns you to beware of Him: for with God is all journeys' end.
First of all the order is for not taking the non-Muslims as friends or allies, in preference to your Muslims brothers. Unless to protect yourself and your community from the non-Muslims, in that case advice given to be on good terms with them, to protect yourself and your family and Muslim community. This is the advice of the Holy Quran applicable for the Muslims living in West at present. They are not in power or majority, therefore, the better option is to be good terms with the majority in social context, even if you do not make them personal friends.
Zamakhshari explained it as meaning Unless you have reasons to fear that they might do something which ought to be guarded against. I.e. if they are more powerful and could cause damage to Muslims as a community.
مَن كَفَرَ بِاللّهِ مِن بَعْدِ إيمَانِهِ إِلاَّ مَنْ أُكْرِهَ وَقَلْبُهُ مُطْمَئِنٌّ بِالإِيمَانِ وَلَـكِن مَّن شَرَحَ بِالْكُفْرِ صَدْرًا فَعَلَيْهِمْ غَضَبٌ مِّنَ اللّهِ وَلَهُمْ عَذَابٌ عَظِيمٌ (16:106)
16:106 As for anyone who denies God after having once attained to faith-and this, to be sure, does not apply to one who does it under duress, the while his heart remains true to his faith, but [only, to] him who willingly opens up his heart to a denial of the truth-: upon all such [falls] God's condemnation, and tremendous suffering awaits them:
I am so shocked for you to use this verse of the Holy Quran for your vain desires and justify the abhorrent practice of deliberate lies that I cannot explain it in words.
It is for those who is coerced, that while his heart is rest in his faith, i.e. he is a Muslim and carry his faith dear, but due to the fear of his life, under torture or threat for death, pronounced that he has not attained to faith. Or ostensibly recant to save himself.
But one should not forget that Holy Quran makes it clear at many places martyrdom in the cause of faith is highly desirable to Allah SWT.
In that context the Holy Quran decreed:
2:233 No human being shall be burdened with more than he is well able to bear: neither shall a mother be made to suffer because of her child, nor, because of his child, he who has begotten it. (Partial verse quoted)
So, Allah SWT does not burden any human more than he/she can bear. If one cannot bear the agony of torture or cannot bear the pain and/or the mental torture and trauma of facing possible death.
There are many verses in the Holy Quran with same message.
Nowhere the Holy Quran allows, orders or recommend using lies in normal course of life.
May Allah SWT give you guidance.
crankthskunk
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
I always had this feeling that this man will end up in jail, because of his cleverness. He was under the impression he can get away with it like he did in Pakistan. Due to the corruption in Pakistan and in his case due to the political wheeling dealings.
But like they say in English "Every Dog has its day".[hilar][hilar][hilar]
I have purposefully used "It", because some people are just not human.:lol::lol::lol:(bigsmile)
I always had this feeling that this man will end up in jail, because of his cleverness. He was under the impression he can get away with it like he did in Pakistan. Due to the corruption in Pakistan and in his case due to the political wheeling dealings.
But like they say in English "Every Dog has its day".[hilar][hilar][hilar]
I have purposefully used "It", because some people are just not human.:lol::lol::lol:(bigsmile)
Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
"Every dog has its day" comes under +ve connotations.... .... .... if so... ... your d o g shall even get away with it....:lol: So hold the noose tight around your d o g s neck[hilar]
Raaz
(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
Very good....I agreed....
Could u please help me in finding
[HI]Surah Altaf and Surah MQM .... and Surah Qatl O Gharat....please.[/HI]
U have real quran and u are vey good Alim e Drogh gooii and Makr o freeb....
Regards
Very good....I agreed....
Could u please help me in finding
[HI]Surah Altaf and Surah MQM .... and Surah Qatl O Gharat....please.[/HI]
U have real quran and u are vey good Alim e Drogh gooii and Makr o freeb....
Regards
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
gazoomartian
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Re: Altaf hussain is admitted in hospital
arey arey raaz bhai
yeh kya bak rahey ho????? lol
arey arey raaz bhai
yeh kya bak rahey ho????? lol
Wadaich
Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
