JazakAllah Khair brother for giving such beautiful and authentic ahadith, but now the Alhe Bidaah Wal Dhalalah will urge that aeroplane, watch and many other scientific inventions are also bidaah (as they usually do). Who will tell them nobody is saying that modern inventions are part of Deen (mode of worship) they are just worldly items which help facilitate human actions and makes human tasks easier. Of course if any Alhe Bidaah believe that using modern tools and inventions are important part of Deen and then it is bidaah indeed.
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JazakAllah Khair brother for giving such beautiful and authentic ahadith, but now the Alhe Bidaah Wal Dhalalah will urge that aeroplane, watch and many other scientific inventions are also bidaah (as they usually do). Who will tell them nobody is saying that modern inventions are part of Deen (mode of worship) they are just worldly items which help facilitate human actions and makes human tasks easier. Of course if any Alhe Bidaah believe that using modern tools and inventions are important part of Deen and then it is bidaah indeed.
modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
Oh bhai Tabiyat Theek hai (bigsmile) ...lol ..Kya pagaloan ki terha lagay huay ho ...Yaar appko kisinay maanay per majboor kiya hai ???[hilar]
Nahi Mantay to na mano ..Bhai yeh manna ya na manna apnay liay hota hai ...Doosroan kay liay nahi .
Wahab is Indeed Allah's Beautiful name but when someone calls a person WAHABI the meaning is intended to be the follower of Ibn al Wahab. Just like when you say "Long arms of the law" ..It doesnt actually mean the Law has Arms :)..But it has an implied meaning. You get rewarded according to you NIYAH..if the niyah in saying Wahab is to recite Allah's name you get rewarded for that. But if the niyah is to call someone a name then that is what is implied.
Please dont come up here with DUMB opinions and say stuff that will make you look like a complete idiot. Try to get proper knowledge first(bigsmile)
JazakAllah
Nahi Mantay to na mano ..Bhai yeh manna ya na manna apnay liay hota hai ...Doosroan kay liay nahi .
Wahab is Indeed Allah's Beautiful name but when someone calls a person WAHABI the meaning is intended to be the follower of Ibn al Wahab. Just like when you say "Long arms of the law" ..It doesnt actually mean the Law has Arms :)..But it has an implied meaning. You get rewarded according to you NIYAH..if the niyah in saying Wahab is to recite Allah's name you get rewarded for that. But if the niyah is to call someone a name then that is what is implied.
Please dont come up here with DUMB opinions and say stuff that will make you look like a complete idiot. Try to get proper knowledge first(bigsmile)
JazakAllah
modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
Why not ??? according to you every Biddah is in the Fire..So lets take the Saudi Sheikhs Cars and Planes and throw them in the fire...He should be living in the Mud huts and riding a camel...I dont understand why does the innovation standard DROP here ..lol[hilar][hilar]
Can someone please tell me if these idiots know more than Hazrat Umar ra...Look at what Hazrat Umar ra said in an AUTHENTIC HADITH FROM SAHIH BUKHARI :D
Sahih Bukhari Book 32 Volume 3 Hadith 227 - 100% Authentic (bigsmile)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prayed at night the whole month of Ramadan out of sincere Faith and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab (a sub-narrator) said, "Allah's Apostle died and the people continued observing that (i.e. Nawafil offered individually, not in congregation), and it remained as it was during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and in the early days of 'Umar's Caliphate." 'Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said, "I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man Now this is what Sayidina Umarpraying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'In my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, 'Umar remarked, 'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e.innovation in religion) this is; but the prayer which they do not perform (continues) <=== Hazrat Umar ra..Has decided what is Biddah :)
Bin Al Khataab r.a. said - People can argue linguistics all they like but clearly from the hadeeth we can See excellent bidah her means the act in Ibaadah - Or Bidah e Hasanah
SOME idiots are Hellbent on Proving Authentic Hadith wrong to prove their misguided beliefs as true ..we will never allow that (bigsmile)
Can someone please tell me if these idiots know more than Hazrat Umar ra...Look at what Hazrat Umar ra said in an AUTHENTIC HADITH FROM SAHIH BUKHARI :D
Sahih Bukhari Book 32 Volume 3 Hadith 227 - 100% Authentic (bigsmile)
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "Whoever prayed at night the whole month of Ramadan out of sincere Faith and hoping for a reward from Allah, then all his previous sins will be forgiven." Ibn Shihab (a sub-narrator) said, "Allah's Apostle died and the people continued observing that (i.e. Nawafil offered individually, not in congregation), and it remained as it was during the Caliphate of Abu Bakr and in the early days of 'Umar's Caliphate." 'Abdur Rahman bin 'Abdul Qari said, "I went out in the company of 'Umar bin Al-Khattab one night in Ramadan to the mosque and found the people praying in different groups. A man praying alone or a man Now this is what Sayidina Umarpraying with a little group behind him. So, 'Umar said, 'In my opinion I would better collect these (people) under the leadership of one Qari (Reciter) (i.e. let them pray in congregation!)'. So, he made up his mind to congregate them behind Ubai bin Ka'b. Then on another night I went again in his company and the people were praying behind their reciter. On that, 'Umar remarked, 'What an excellent Bid'a (i.e.innovation in religion) this is; but the prayer which they do not perform (continues) <=== Hazrat Umar ra..Has decided what is Biddah :)
Bin Al Khataab r.a. said - People can argue linguistics all they like but clearly from the hadeeth we can See excellent bidah her means the act in Ibaadah - Or Bidah e Hasanah
SOME idiots are Hellbent on Proving Authentic Hadith wrong to prove their misguided beliefs as true ..we will never allow that (bigsmile)
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modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
hahahahahah....im enjoying this ...absolutely loving it ..keep it coming guys ..its very ENTERTAINING [hilar][hilar]
I dont know where ahle bidaah draw the line between sunnah and bidaah. There is no such thing as good bidaah. As the prophet S.A.W said every bidaah is dhalalah and every dhalalah will lead to hell fire. If alhe bidaah still think that there is good bidaah then why not pray 6,10,50 or any other number of fardh rakaah of fajar and other salah , why not impose 5%, 10%, 20% zakat, and why not change many other ibadah as well. This will destroy the whole sharia if allowed (Astaghfirullah). The only acceptable amal is Sunnah. (NO ADDITION NO SUBTRACTION)
Pakistani1947
Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Ahle-biddat (اہل بدعت) usually present Tarawih prayer as an example to justify their acts of biddat (بدعت). As far as Tarawih is concerned, it was not something invented in the religion, it was the sunnah and Sahabah (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) used to pray with more than one Jammat. Hazrat Umer (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) simply organized it into one Jammat. For example, early Quraan did not contain dots or short vowel markings on the letters and words. Dots were put as syntactical marks by Abu Al-Aswad Al Doaly, during the time of Mu'awiya Ibn Abi Sufian (661-680 CE). The letters were marked with different dotting by Nasr Ibn Asem and Hayy ibn Ya'amor, during the time of Abd Al-Malek Ibn Marawan (685-705 CE). A complete system of diacritical marks (damma, fataha, kasra) was invented by Al Khaleel Ibn Ahmad Al Faraheedy (d. 786 CE). This innovation will not be called biddat as adding dots or short vowel markings just enhanced the readability of Qur'aan for non-Arabs.
On the other hand, celebrating the Birthday of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) is biddat (بدعت) as neither our beloved prophet celebrated the his(صلى الله عليه وسلم) or anybody birthday , nor Sahabah (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ), after the death of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم), celebrated birthday of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم).
Could anybody from bidatti (بدعتی) group tell me how many biddat (بدعت) invented by Sahabah (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) after the death of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم) their biddat is included in Sahih Sitta books? Are Muslim after the death of Sahabah (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) become more capable of creating biddat then Sahaba (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ)??
Biddat (بدعت) is also against the spirit of Islam. If you allow innovations in religion then there wouldn't be any limit to the addition of new sects to Islam.
Narrated Zaid bin Thabit: Abu Bakr As-Siddiq sent for me when the people! of Yamama had been killed (i.e., a number of the Prophet's Companions who fought against Musailama). (I went to him) and found 'Umar bin Al-Khattab sitting with him. Abu Bakr then said (to me), "Umar has come to me and said: "Casualties were heavy among the Qurra' of the! Qur'an (i.e. those who knew the quran by heart) on the day of the Battle of Yalmama, and I am afraid that more heavy casualties may take place among the Qurra' on other battlefields, whereby a large part of the Qur'an may be lost. Therefore I suggest, you (Abu Bakr) order that the Qur'an be collected." I said to 'Umar, "How can you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" 'Umar said, "By Allah, that is a good project. "Umar kept on urging me to accept his proposal till Allah opened my chest for it and I began to realize the good in the idea which 'Umar had realized." Then Abu Bakr said (to me). 'You are a wise young man and we do not have any suspicion about you, and you used to write the Divine Inspiration for Allah's Apostle. So you should search for (the fragmentary scripts of) the Qur'an and collect it in one book)." By Allah If they had ordered me to shift one of the mountains, it would not have been heavier for me than this ordering me to collect the Qur'an. Then I said to Abu Bakr, "How will you do something which Allah's Apostle did not do?" Abu Bakr replied, "By Allah, it is a good project." Abu Bakr kept on urging me to accept his idea until Allah opened my chest for what He had opened the chests of Abu Bakr and 'Umar. So I started looking for the Qur'an and collecting it from (what was written on) palmed stalks, thin white stones and also from the men who knew it by heart, till I found the last Verse of Surat At-Tauba (Repentance) with Abi Khuzaima Al-Ansari, and I did not find it with anybody other than him. The Verse is: 'Verily there has come unto you an Apostle (Muhammad) from amongst yourselves. It grieves him that you should receive any injury or difficulty..(till the end of Surat-Baraa' (At-Tauba) (9.128-129) Then the complete manuscripts (copy) of the Qur'an remained with Abu Bakr till he died, then with 'Umar till the end of his life, and then with Hafsa, the daughter of 'Umar. (Sahih Bukhari, Book #61, Hadith #509)
Lesson learned from above Hadeeth: Hazrat Abu Bakr (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) were so afraid of doing anything which is not done by our beloved Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) that initially he even resisted in compilation of Quraan. Just think about it without any bias, why were Hazrat Abu Bakr (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) initially against the compilation of Quraan?? The answer is very simple, because he (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) did not want to be a biddati (innovator into religion). when Hazrat Umer (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) explained that this act (compilation of Quraan) does not come under the defination of Biddat only then he (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) agreed to proceed.
This Hadeeth also explain the reason why any of Sahah (رَّضِيَ اللَّهُ عَنْهُمْ) did not celebrate the birthday of Prophet Muhammad (صلى الله عليه وسلم), did not ever do Sijda to any Qabar, did not ever celbrated Shab-e-barat, did not build domes on graves...etc, etc.
May Allah give hidayat to my bidatti (بدعتی) Muslim brothers who think that they are more capable of innovating new ways of ibadat which our beloved Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) were not able to teach us, Nauzobillah (Aameen)..
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For you this may be entertaining but for us this is very sad. Significant part of Pakistan and India is involved in shirk and bidahh which is very unfortunate.
modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
lol lol lol ...Here even you Admit..(bigsmile)...Buddy, When a significant Part of Pakistan and India is doing something then that is MAJORITY or in Arabic Terms "Jamaah" ...and My AKKA pbuh said follow the Ahle Sunnah wal Jamaah:)..So in other words people of your mindset are a minority or a SECT (bigsmile)..Oh and by the way the Mazarat e Aulia and Pious people are in Iran, Turkey, Jordan, Iraq..Sheikh Abdul Qadir Gilani Ra (Ghouse ul Azam)..So please include all these countries in your DARK country list and you have another very BIG JAMAAT (bigsmile)
Now Bravos to people who think that all the above countries and people are wrong But they are Right [hilar][hilar]
Now Bravos to people who think that all the above countries and people are wrong But they are Right [hilar][hilar]
There is only one way to make this Jaali Faqeer die a natural death . . . .
Just Paint the Dome of the Masjid Nabvi to a colour other than green . . . . And this Hari Pagri fitna would die from the land of Sub continent . . . .
And by the way it is the only place these Biddatis are found . . . .
Just Paint the Dome of the Masjid Nabvi to a colour other than green . . . . And this Hari Pagri fitna would die from the land of Sub continent . . . .
And by the way it is the only place these Biddatis are found . . . .
modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
You still Havent Answered my question as to Do you or anyone of your misguided people KNOW MORE THAN HAZRAT UMAR RA? ? ..and now with this article you published ...you are going to make this even worse
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modern fakir
MPA (400+ posts)
That is all what can be expected from people such as yourselves who are responsible for destroying thousands of pious graves of our sahabah ra and important relics from the time of the Prophet pbuh. If you had the capability you would have painted the dome along time ago. But what you forget is Allah swt protects his Beloved and He will deal with any insulting move with a Jalaali Response.
So be careful of what you utter from your UGLY mouth ...You may regret it foreever !..You Understand !
So be careful of what you utter from your UGLY mouth ...You may regret it foreever !..You Understand !
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What nonsense you are uttering . . . . Is the Green Dome a relic of the time of Holy Prophet (SAW) . . . . Go and read history as it was only in 12 th century that the Dome was painted as such . . . .
And I am not like you to concentrate on the colours, Fake Maujzaat refered to Aulias and graves of the dead . . . . As none of which will grant me a place in Heaven . . . . What matters will be the Salaht, Sunnah of Prophet (SAW) and siding with the cause of truth . . . .
And it it is only the Bughz in your brain which make you accuse me for insulting the Prophet (SAW) or the graves of pious Sahabas (RA) ( as I am not against the graves but the buildings over them which people like you than converts in to a source of Bussiness) . . . . As in my post above, I ve done nothing of that sort except proposing to change the colour of the Dome . . . .
Therefore just enjoy on the grants of The US Embassy and stop wasting others time . . . .
apni bari aai tu apnay naam ko multipal bana leia kiya ye khula tazaad nahi,ya ye munafqat hay?
main ne tu aap ko wahabi ,salfi ya deubandi tu kaha hay,aap munafaq ho,is liay aap ko munafaq kaha:):lol:,beta pakistan islam k naam par bana tha na,tu islam k naam par jo cheez banay us ko celeberate karna kaisa hai,wahan sab socalled molvi 14 agust ko music par Qaumi tarana ihtram mein kharay ho kar suntay hain,us waqt biddat bhool jatay hain,biddat us waqt munafaq aur shetan ko yaad aati hay,jab wo koi acha aur sawab ka kaam kar raha hota hay:)
jis banday ki video post ki hay munafaq sahib aap ne,is ne tu darhi sharif rakhi nahi,kiya ye biddat nahi,?
beta jo sawal modren faqeer ne kiya hay us ka jawab do,munafaq ki tarah baat idhar udhar na ghumaao,
Ku bhai . . . . Tum us Jaali Faqeer ka theka daar lugtay ho . . . . Lotay ho latreen ma raho or upni auqaat sa bahir na aao . . . . By the way the Americans will leave this region very soon and this will end your dollars which bring you back to your Auqaat . . . .
Dear lotaa sb, can you define sunnah properly before we talk about daadhi and pagdi or kurta palaama? Thanks in advance.
regards and all the best.
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