Chairman PTI Imran Khan Speech in Peshawar - Azadi March 2.0

Maharaj Siyasi

MPA (400+ posts)
This is the fundamental problem with the short videos that not every aspect is either properly highlighted and/or explained well, this leaves more room for the audience to speculate.

I have a different take on the subject matter. I think Kamran Khan is trying to elaborate how the plan was hatched, but yes, he did not disclose the script writer, the producer, director and all the actors, I guess.

Comparatively true, that the actors with the script, as we have witnessed was more or less the same. Though, the script writer, the director, producers and all the rest of the crew is missing from this statement and that, we know who and why.
But for sure he is working on some instruction from his boss to take the blame away from US.
Things will be twisted slowly and steadily. Khan's pressure is spiraling out of control. It has to be dealt with carefully.
 
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Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But for sure he has taken some instruction from his boss to take the blame away from US.
Things will be twisted slowly and steadily. Khan's pressure is spiraling out of control. It has to be dealt with carefully.
Actually, the fricative matter for US came along when IK tried to take control of the Afghanistan policy into his hands. This necessarily had to do a lot with Gen Faiz Hameed and Gen Nadeem Anjum. So the locus is rightly identified. He, who has greater control over the US interests in the region, deals with the US. Period.
 

Muskerahat

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
then why they want even Prime Minster when Army have to do that every thing. why army controling every thing. this is not their job
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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What do you want to tell me, is Chandaa that much old?
chandaa, aapko budhia keh raha hay yeh
 

Londoner/Lahori

Minister (2k+ posts)
His paymaster Mian Amir was employed and tasked by Americans to distribute funds in media and put together a strong media lobby against Imran Khan, he also got American pie.
These are not journalists, these are straight up mother selling prostitutes.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
then why they want even Prime Minster when Army have to do that every thing. why army controling every thing. this is not their job
Army thinks that the matter of Afghanistan is their domain, as well as CPEC.
IK rightly said that ZAB's Govt as well as his were punished due to their Foreign Policy.

For the rest of the matters, Army always lent a helping hand to IK.
 

xecutioner

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
We should also mention the bakhshish malak riaz gives to sajeelay jwanon
Also what sajeelays did to phase 1 extension dha islamabad
 

Maharaj Siyasi

MPA (400+ posts)
Actually, the fricative matter for US came along when IK tried to take control of the Afghanistan policy into his hands. This necessarily had to do a lot with Gen Faiz Hameed and Gen Nadeem Anjum. So the locus is rightly identified. He, who has greater control over the US interests in the region, deals with the US. Period.
Dont know if we can go that deep and analyze things like this. How can you say Faiz Hameed has different view on Afghanistan from Gen Nadeem.
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dont know if we can go that deep and analyze things like this. How can you say Faiz Hameed has different view on Afghanistan from Gen Nadeem.
Gen Nadeem Anjum has, in his hat, a feather of carrying out a heavy strike on Afghans when he was deployed at Southern Command, during the times of the Population Census. He, for the matter went inside Afghanistan and destroyed almost 10 of their checkposts along the border in Baluchistan.

Gen Faiz Hameed, on the other hand, has a different approach towards Afghanistan as he was the one handling the trilateral talks between the Taliban, Pakistan and US. His personality has been acknowledged as respectable by the Afghans.

Yes, we at least need to go even deeper than this.

There is a main flaw with ISI's formation. According to the TORs, the agency is reporting to the PM directly. However, it is, implicitly always headed by a serving Lt. General of Pak Army. Therefore, the COAS always expect his junior as his under-command (u/c) to be subservient to him. This is another reason why ISI had always been a bone of contention between the Army and the Civilian PM. Even in 1999, Gen Zaheer Butt who was heading ISI became closer to the OM and started working against Musharraf. The night when Nawaz Sharif was ousted, Gen Zaheer ud Din Butt was also arrested as he was accompanying NS at PM House and NS also made him (Gen Zaheer) the COAS.

Therefore, this conflict of command and interests is embedded in the soul of ISI (Bechari)
 

Maharaj Siyasi

MPA (400+ posts)
Gen Nadeem Anjum has, in his hat, a feather of carrying out a heavy strike on Afghans when he was deployed at Southern Command, during the times of the Population Census. He, for the matter went inside Afghanistan and destroyed almost 10 of their checkposts along the border in Baluchistan.

Gen Faiz Hameed, on the other hand, has a different approach towards Afghanistan as he was the one handling the trilateral talks between the Taliban, Pakistan and US. His personality has been acknowledged as respectable by the Afghans.

Yes, we at least need to go even deeper than this.

There is a main flaw with ISI's formation. According to the TORs, the agency is reporting to the PM directly. However, it is, implicitly always headed by a serving Lt. General of Pak Army. Therefore, the COAS always expect his junior as his under-command (u/c) to be subservient to him. This is another reason why ISI had always been a bone of contention between the Army and the Civilian PM. Even in 1999, Gen Zaheer Butt who was heading ISI became closer to the OM and started working against Musharraf. The night when Nawaz Sharif was ousted, Gen Zaheer ud Din Butt was also arrested as he was accompanying NS at PM House and NS also made him (Gen Zaheer) the COAS.

Therefore, this conflict of command and interests is embedded in the soul of ISI (Bechari)
I may not agree with Gen Faiz Hameed's Profile as you described. None of the existing Generals are really known or respected inside Afghanistan. The trilateral talks were not exactly trilateral. It was just a bilateral in reality. Qatar was more in than Pakistan. Even though we were not sure that we will be invited to the final agreement ceremony.
In fact our concerns are still the same and unattended. Instead of putting in the main deal, we are now begging Taliban to stop TTP from using Afghan soil against us.
What the hell is happening to our border controls and fencing is also known to all.
And no ISI is not reporting to civilians at all. It is in fact a state within state. I think it sometimes operates on its own.
 

The Oasis

MPA (400+ posts)
یہ فوج امریکہ نے کرائے پر لی ہوئی ہے، پاکستانیوں کو ہراساں اور غائب کرنے کے لیے.

انکی تعداد 7 لاکھ سے کم کر کے 7 ہزار کر دیں، خزانے پر اتنا بوجھ کیوں؟

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