Israel votes to condemn China abuses against Uyghur Muslims

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The pot calling the kettle black!

This is a classic example of Hypocrisy ?

Pakistan also refuses to recognize atrocities committed by China of its Muslim population. Is it not hypocrisy?

Look at the history of China to understand its motives. When the Europe was colonizing the whole world with their "fire power" and Navy, China was the inventor of the "Gun powder" and it had a massive fleet of ships than Europe. But they only did trade and were not interested in expansion.

Then, when India was under the British Raj, China fought two wars in the 18th and 19th Century, known as "Opium wars". They were subdued by the British through the smuggling of Opium, in exchange of Tea. In those wars, China lost Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Then there was a bloodshed in the name of religion by the "Taiping Rebellion", where more than 50 million people were butchered.

After that, the current system of China evolved, having some major attributes, which "WE" need to understand:

1- Zero tolerance for drugs
2- Zero tolerance for religious fundamentalism
3- Non-expansionist system of dominance.

Keeping in view these three traits of Chinese strategy, we should know that China is not going to spare anyone trying to radicalize any of its religious community, be it Muslims. We have already seen TTP in our parts of the country. Whereas, there are reports that just like Arab Spring, some world powers were working on the Uyghurs in China as well. But China nipped the evil in the bud.

Secondly, China is a system of non-expansionist system of dominance. It only focuses on trade. But, as it had previously been deceived by the British, therefore, it is hungry to defend its boundaries. Just like the British stole the recipe of "Tea processing" from China, they now fear the Romans, even if they bring gifts. So the Chinese system is basically focused on the defense of its borders and it can go to any length to preserve itself.

Having said that, it seems quite improbable that China would ever threaten Israel, as it has some serious backdoor channels with Israel that provides China with the latest defense systems.

Secondly, China will not tolerate any sort of religious fundamentalism on its soils. Be it Muslims or whoever.

Thirdly, China is nowhere near to engage any country in a tug of war and set its foot down at any soil. Be it Palestine. China only sides with the majority to keep its business relations working with those countries. Otherwise, Chinese do not have an iota of interest in Palestine and/or Israeli occupation. They are only concerned about themselves and their borders alone.
 
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arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
بھارت اور اسرائیل میں مسلمانوں کے حقوق بہانہ نہیں ہیں
کیونکہ وہاں امریکہ کی دوستیاں ہیں جیسے چین کیساتھ پاکستان کی دوستی ہے تو وہاں کے مسلمانوں کیساتھ ظلم پاکستان کا مسئلہ نہیں
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
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Should've also watched the video in post #2 as well.

 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Look at the history of China to understand its motives. When the Europe was colonizing the whole world with their "fire power" and Navy, China was the inventor of the "Gun powder" and it had a massive fleet of ships than Europe. But they only did trade and were not interested in expansion.

Then, when India was under the British Raj, China fought two wars in the 18th and 19th Century, known as "Opium wars". They were subdued by the British through the smuggling of Opium, in exchange of Tea. In those wars, China lost Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Then there was a bloodshed in the name of religion by the "Taiping Rebellion", where more than 500 million people were butchered.

After that, the current system of China evolved, having some major attributes, which "WE" need to understand:

1- Zero tolerance for drugs
2- Zero tolerance for religious fundamentalism
3- Non-expansionist system of dominance.

Keeping in view these three traits of Chinese strategy, we should know that China is not going to spare anyone trying to radicalize any of its religious community, be it Muslims. We have already seen TTP in our parts of the country. Whereas, there are reports that just like Arab Spring, some world powers were working on the Uyghurs in China as well. But China nipped the evil in the bud.

Secondly, China is a system of non-expansionist system of dominance. It only focuses on trade. But, as it had previously been deceived by the British, therefore, it is hungry to defend its boundaries. Just like the British stole the recipe of "Tea processing" from China, they now fear the Romans, even if they bring gifts. So the Chinese system is basically focused on the defense of its borders and it can go to any length to preserve itself.

Having said that, it seems quite probable that China would ever threaten Israel, as it has some serious backdoor channels with Israel that provides China with the latest defense systems.

Secondly, China will not tolerate any sort of religious fundamentalism on its soils. Be it Muslims or whoever.

Thirdly, China is nowhere near to engage any country in a tug of war and set its foot down at any soil. Be it Palestine. China only sides with the majority to keep its business relations working with those countries. Otherwise, Chinese do not have an iota of interest in Palestine and/or Israeli occupation. They are only concerned about themselves and their borders alone.
As a rule of thumb, it is the unequivocal right of any sovereign nation to enact, enforce and practice laws and employ any regulations to ensure peace and prosperity with in its internationally recognized realm as it deems fit.
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
As a rule of thumb, it is the unequivocal right of any sovereign nation to enact, enforce and practice laws and employ any regulations to ensure peace and prosperity with in its internationally recognized realm as it deems fit.
Does this include genocide?
 

Wake up Pak

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Look at the history of China to understand its motives. When the Europe was colonizing the whole world with their "fire power" and Navy, China was the inventor of the "Gun powder" and it had a massive fleet of ships than Europe. But they only did trade and were not interested in expansion.

Then, when India was under the British Raj, China fought two wars in the 18th and 19th Century, known as "Opium wars". They were subdued by the British through the smuggling of Opium, in exchange of Tea. In those wars, China lost Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Then there was a bloodshed in the name of religion by the "Taiping Rebellion", where more than 500 million people were butchered.

After that, the current system of China evolved, having some major attributes, which "WE" need to understand:

1- Zero tolerance for drugs
2- Zero tolerance for religious fundamentalism
3- Non-expansionist system of dominance.

Keeping in view these three traits of Chinese strategy, we should know that China is not going to spare anyone trying to radicalize any of its religious community, be it Muslims. We have already seen TTP in our parts of the country. Whereas, there are reports that just like Arab Spring, some world powers were working on the Uyghurs in China as well. But China nipped the evil in the bud.

Secondly, China is a system of non-expansionist system of dominance. It only focuses on trade. But, as it had previously been deceived by the British, therefore, it is hungry to defend its boundaries. Just like the British stole the recipe of "Tea processing" from China, they now fear the Romans, even if they bring gifts. So the Chinese system is basically focused on the defense of its borders and it can go to any length to preserve itself.

Having said that, it seems quite probable that China would ever threaten Israel, as it has some serious backdoor channels with Israel that provides China with the latest defense systems.

Secondly, China will not tolerate any sort of religious fundamentalism on its soils. Be it Muslims or whoever.

Thirdly, China is nowhere near to engage any country in a tug of war and set its foot down at any soil. Be it Palestine. China only sides with the majority to keep its business relations working with those countries. Otherwise, Chinese do not have an iota of interest in Palestine and/or Israeli occupation. They are only concerned about themselves and their borders alone.
Agree with what you have posted but your original post was about Israel asking for human rights in China while their own record is probably worst than any other country when it comes to human rights.
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
کیونکہ وہاں امریکہ کی دوستیاں ہیں جیسے چین کیساتھ پاکستان کی دوستی ہے تو وہاں کے مسلمانوں کیساتھ ظلم پاکستان کا مسئلہ نہیں
جمہوریہ ہونے کے ناطے انسانی حقوق کے علمبرداروں کے مینمار میں بھی مفادات ہیں لیکن پاکستان اور ایران جمہوریہ ہو کر بھی مینمار کے برابر نہیں ہو سکے​
 

The Sane

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
According to Israel it is Israel's territory
You answered well by friend…”According to Israel…..”. My argument is however, “internationally recognized as per UN”. UN doesn’t accept West Bank and Gaza as part of Israel.
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
جمہوریہ ہونے کے ناطے انسانی حقوق کے علمبرداروں کے مینمار میں بھی مفادات ہیں لیکن پاکستان اور ایران جمہوریہ ہو کر بھی مینمار کے برابر نہیں ہو سکے​
بنگالیوں کا قتل عام، کردیوں کا قتل عام اسرائیل نے کیا تھا؟
 

arifkarim

Prime Minister (20k+ posts)
Palestinian police killing Palestinians. Muslim human rights organizations are silent because they only hate Jews / Israelis
 

Sohail Shuja

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
It's occupying Tibet, East Turkistan
I am unable to subscribe to this idea of Chinese invasion into East Turkistan. East Turkistan was a self proclaimed regime which was made out of China in 1933 and survived less than five years after that.

Tibet, in its own accord is China's old region. Everyone knows from where the Buddhism started.

Though, on the other hand, when I hear the same hue and cry for the such regions like by TTP for PATA, Kurdistan in the regions of Turkey and Iraq and East Turkestan in China, I tend to wonder about the old state of Prussia and the lost state of Hyderabad & Deccan. Would they also have the same fate of support?
 

atensari

(50k+ posts) بابائے فورم
بنگالیوں کا قتل عام، کردیوں کا قتل عام اسرائیل نے کیا تھا؟
مکتی باہنی کے ہاتوں بنگالیوں کا قتل آج بھی ہو رہا ہے. کبھی مجاہدین افغان اور طالبان تھے آجکل کرد انسانی حقوق کے علمبرداروں کے اچھے جنگجو ہیں اسلئے ان کا خیال رکھا جاتا ہے