SUFI MUSIC ----- Whats the reality?

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Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
My brother,
please donot get personal and get he hatred out of your mind this is stopping you to see and accept the truth.

For Allah's sake read, researh, think and seek Allah's help.
May Allah guide us all

Brother I not being personal. I telling you the right path with refrence from Quran and Hadees. I tell each point with refrence.

For Allah's sake read, research, think and seek Allah's help.

May Allah guide us all Ameen.

 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Music is music, giving it a title of sufi music, it is just refining
something. Advocating that sufi music is to spread islam is
totally wrong. It is firdoos dancing with lal meri pat rakio balal
or shazia khush dancing at some shirine.
 

basim973

Politcal Worker (100+ posts)
Dear Basim, You are just fighting unneccerily. There is very minute difference between Sufi and you. Ultimate objective is the same in both. While all Muslims believe that they are on the pathway to God and hope to become close to God in Paradise after death and after the "Final Judgment" Sufis also believe that it is possible to draw closer to God and to more fully embrace the Divine Presence in this life.

Ref: Rumi, Mathnawi
Quoted by Shaykh 'Abd al-Halim Mahmud, former Shaykh al-Azhar

Few things in sufism similar to islam donot make it the islam........please quote the quran and sunnah if you wana talk abt islam..........your quoted references are nothing compared to original references of the quran and the hadith
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Few things in sufism similar to islam donot make it the islam........please quote the quran and sunnah if you wana talk abt islam..........your quoted references are nothing compared to original references of the quran and the hadith
No one is making it as Islam. I said Sufis also beleive to get closer to God in this life rather than getting closer to God only after death. This is in real sense 'the essence of Islam.' We should all remember God whether we eat, drink or sleep. This can actually protect us from sins. I am not saying here that we should not pray or fast or do Haj or give Zakat. Sufism starts where all these things complete. Sufism is the height of completeness of Islam.
 
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Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Please try and understand how law works in islam in quranic context. You need proof that something or act is obligatory or unlawful you do not need any other proof for some thing being lawful beyobd ensuring that it is not unlawful.

This is fundamental rule of islamic fiqh on which all shirah laws are supposed to be based.

Anyone saying this is haraam or that is haraam needs to bring clear proof about hurmat.

If anyone is in doubt we can debate the principle in light of thequran to clear the doubt. Islam is clear principle and rule based religion not a jumble of senseless verses and texts.

So those who say music or art etc are hraam please show your proof or stop saying this is haraam or that is haraam. You have proof you state it clear and simple. No baseless arguments needed or necessary.
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
Every thing has been discussed with Quran and Hadees in the whole thread. Sufi music is not haram if used for good purpose.
 

Mughal1

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Dear friends, islam is based on clear cut rules not jumble of senseless texts.

The rule for defining halaal and haraam is avery simple one. You need clear proof from the quran and the hadith for something or any act to be obligatory or unlawful.

No proof is needed for something or some act to prove it is lawful beyond the ensuring that that thing or act is not unlawful.

If anyone is in doubt about this rule of the quran we can debate it in a new thread. This is fundamental rule of islamic juresprudence upon which are supposed to be all laws of shariah. This rule is fundamental in world wide legislature.

All governments in the world use the same rule ie originally there is no law about something and then people see the need for a law and they bring in the law making something obligatroy or unlawful. Before invention of road transport is a clear example and like wise laws regarding aviation or shipping etc etc.

Laws come about as people need them and they bring them about using the very same rule as is told in the quran from the quranic context.

This is why those who claim anything or act is haraam, they need to bring clear proof for their claim otherwise they cannot prove themselves right.

It is fundamentally wrong to ask for proof of lawfulness of things or acts rather it is their obligation or unlawfulness that need proving.

So if music and arts are claimed to be haraam then where is the clear proof? Could we all please see it to solve this dispute for good?

regards and all the best
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
You tell with some Ayat from Quran that music is haram. Talk with refrence because uptil now you didnt tell any refrence.

I do not believe that Music is harram or halal concept. This is just way of amusement.
The real problem is that when people pay Gallery ticket in an airconditioned cinema
and hair spreading well looking actress start dancing with rhythm, 'NABI DEE AAL QALANDAR,
HUSSAINI LAL QALANDAR, MERAY GHAM TAAL QALANDAR" and people say that it is
Deen we got and also dunya we got and good time we spent. It is just amusement
nothing to do with halal harram,

Some Ulema tried to jump into the bandwagon by defining the quranic
words "LahwolHadith", but they do not have any basis.
 

sngilani

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
You tell with some Ayat from Quran that music is haram. Talk with refrence because uptil now you didnt tell any refrence.


Sufism is not Haram in Islam. Look at the following Hadith :
Umar ibn al-Khattab, a companion of the prophet, said:
"One day we were sitting in the company of Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None amongst us recognized him. At last he sat with the Apostle (peace be upon him). He knelt before him placed his palms on his thighs and said: Muhammad, inform me about Islam.
"The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Islam implies that you testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you establish prayer, pay Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform pilgrimage to the (House) if you are solvent enough (to bear the expense of) the journey. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth.
"It amazed us that he would put the question and then he would himself verify the truth.
"He (the inquirer) said: Inform me about Iman.
"He (the Holy Prophet) replied: That you affirm your faith in Allah, in His angels, in His Books, in His Apostles, in the Day of Judgment, and you affirm your faith in the Divine Decree about good and evil.
"He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He again said: Inform me about Ihsan.
"He (the Holy Prophet) said: That you worship Allah as if you are seeing Him, for though you don't see Him, He, verily, sees you.
"He (the enquirer) again said: Inform me about the hour (of the Doom).
"He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: One who is asked knows no more than the one who is inquiring (about it).
"He (the inquirer) said: Tell me some of its indications.
"He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings.
"Then he (the inquirer) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Holy Prophet) for a long while. He then, said to me: Umar, do you know who this inquirer was? I replied: Allah and His Apostle knows best. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: He was Gabriel (the angel). He came to you in order to instruct you in matters of religion."
Sahih Muslim, Book 1:Number 1

In this well-known hadith the angel Gabriel asks about pivotal features of the Islamic belief. They included Islam, Iman, and Ihsan. Islam is the outward practice of the religion. Iman is the belief in the unseen and what the prophets have informed us of. Ihsan is to worship Allah as though one sees him. Traditionally scholars were able to teach each of these essential parts of Islam. The Imams of Sharia or 'sacred law' taught at the level of Islam. The Imams of Aqida or 'tenets of faith' taught Iman. The Imams of Sufism taught at the level of Ihsan.
The need to learn from a teacher is based on the Quranic verses:

''Ask those who know if you know not''
Qur'an 16:43


''And follow the path of him who turns unto Me''
Qur'an 31:15





 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
I do not believe that Music is harram or halal concept. This is just way of amusement.
The real problem is that when people pay Gallery ticket in an airconditioned cinema
and hair spreading well looking actress start dancing with rhythm, 'NABI DEE AAL QALANDAR,
HUSSAINI LAL QALANDAR, MERAY GHAM TAAL QALANDAR" and people say that it is
Deen we got and also dunya we got and good time we spent. It is just amusement
nothing to do with halal harram,

Some Ulema tried to jump into the bandwagon by defining the quranic
words "LahwolHadith", but they do not have any basis.

What I understand is that you dont think music is haram and you are just worried about the wrong usage. I agree with you about wrong usage about music and if any one does any shirk or wrong deed under veil of sufi music then it not right.

I didnt understand what you mean by lahwol Hadees which is your last two lines.
 

Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
Sufism is not Haram in Islam. Look at the following Hadith :
Umar ibn al-Khattab, a companion of the prophet, said:
"One day we were sitting in the company of Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) when there appeared before us a man dressed in pure white clothes, his hair extraordinarily black. There were no signs of travel on him. None amongst us recognized him. At last he sat with the Apostle (peace be upon him). He knelt before him placed his palms on his thighs and said: Muhammad, inform me about Islam.
"The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: Islam implies that you testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah, and you establish prayer, pay Zakat, observe the fast of Ramadan, and perform pilgrimage to the (House) if you are solvent enough (to bear the expense of) the journey. He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth.
"It amazed us that he would put the question and then he would himself verify the truth.
"He (the inquirer) said: Inform me about Iman.
"He (the Holy Prophet) replied: That you affirm your faith in Allah, in His angels, in His Books, in His Apostles, in the Day of Judgment, and you affirm your faith in the Divine Decree about good and evil.
"He (the inquirer) said: You have told the truth. He again said: Inform me about Ihsan.
"He (the Holy Prophet) said: That you worship Allah as if you are seeing Him, for though you don't see Him, He, verily, sees you.
"He (the enquirer) again said: Inform me about the hour (of the Doom).
"He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: One who is asked knows no more than the one who is inquiring (about it).
"He (the inquirer) said: Tell me some of its indications.
"He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings.
"Then he (the inquirer) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Holy Prophet) for a long while. He then, said to me: Umar, do you know who this inquirer was? I replied: Allah and His Apostle knows best. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: He was Gabriel (the angel). He came to you in order to instruct you in matters of religion."
Sahih Muslim, Book 1:Number 1

In this well-known hadith the angel Gabriel asks about pivotal features of the Islamic belief. They included Islam, Iman, and Ihsan. Islam is the outward practice of the religion. Iman is the belief in the unseen and what the prophets have informed us of. Ihsan is to worship Allah as though one sees him. Traditionally scholars were able to teach each of these essential parts of Islam. The Imams of Sharia or 'sacred law' taught at the level of Islam. The Imams of Aqida or 'tenets of faith' taught Iman. The Imams of Sufism taught at the level of Ihsan.
The need to learn from a teacher is based on the Quranic verses:

''Ask those who know if you know not''
Qur'an 16:43


''And follow the path of him who turns unto Me''
Qur'an 31:15






Good answer Jazakallah.
 

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SUFI BELIEVES ----- Quotes from the Sufi books

Where as Sufi tries to reach a place near to God where there is no difference remain between him and God.

Sngilani, Could you please tell if you can justify your above SHIRKA statement that with Quraan and Hadeeth?. Tell me please why our Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not chose to be Sufi if these Sufis could attain such a high level that in your words " a place near to God where there is no difference remain between him and God" (Nauzobillah).

For your information, following are some quotes from the Sufi books
(پڑھو اور سر دھنو).

I am superior to Prophets and I am higher in rank than they are.(Sheikh Mohiuddin Ibn-Arabi, Hadeeqa Sultania pg190)

I have denounced Islam. I believe this is incumbent on people. Allah is God sitting in the heavens, I am the God on earth
. (Statement of Hussain bin Mansoor Hallaj, Khateeb Baghdadi Vol 8, Ibne Athir chapter 11:140)

Sheikh Imam Abul Hassan Noori was in the company of his disciples. The call to prayers came. The Sheikh said, “It is death.” Then a dog barked. The Sheikh replied, "Labbaik ya Sayyedi!" - Yes, O My Master!(Ibn-e-Jozi Talbees-e-Iblis pg 383)

My body has merged with the body of Rasulullah. Therefore, we are one. (Shah Waliullah, Anfasul Arifain)

In the assemblies of "URS" (communion of Sufi souls with God, literally, wedding with God), spirits of the dead Sufis come to dance around. (Mullah Abul Kalam Azad, the late Minister of Education in India. Iman-e-Khalis by Fazil ‘Uloom-e Deeniyah, Dr. Masooduddin Usmani pg 63)

Hazrat Dawood Jawarbi had seen Allah. When asked about Allah, he said, “Ask me not about His genitals and His beard. Ask about anything else.” (Al-Milil-wan-Nahil, Imam Shehristani 1:96).

There is none else worthy of worship. Come and worship me.(Mullah Jalaluddin Rumi, Mathnawi 4:52)

This morning Allah wrestled with me. He floored me because I am 2 years younger than He is. (Abul Hassan Kharqani, Fawaid Faridiya pg 78)

Alas! The Muslim fails to understand that Allah can be found only in idol worship. (Sufi Mahmood Shabistri, Sharah Gulshan-e-Raz pg 294)

Hanafis are people who are pacing toward Hellfire. The death anniversary of Imam Husain must be celebrated like the Festival of Eid.
(“Piran-e-Pir
Dastgeer” - The Saint of saints, Holder of hands - Abdul Qadir Jeelani, Ghania- til-Talibain pg 190)

My foot is on the neck of every saint. So, I placed my foot on Hazrat Ali's neck. (Abdul Qadir Jeelani, Asrar-ul-Qadam pg 191)

I hate the God who does not appear as a dog or cat. (Ibn-Arabi, Khazeena Imaniyah pg 168)

Whenever Khwaja Maudood Chishti desired to see the Ka’bah, angels airlifted it to the land of Chisht in India. (Malfoozat Khwaja Qutubuddin Bukhtiar Kaki, Fariduddin Ganj Shakar).

One thousand years have gone and so has the time of Muhammad. Now it is my time, the time of Ahmad. The second millennium is mine.
(Sheikh
Ahmad Sarhindi, the so-called “Mujaddid Alf-Sani”, Revivalist of the Second Millennium. (Mubda-wa-Ma’ad)

Khwaja Qutbuddin Maudood Chishti’s dead body flew in the air on its way to the graveyard. Khwaja Fareeduddin Ganj Shakar upon narrating this fell
unconscious.
(Rahatil-Quloob, Ganj Shakar).

Adam cried for 300 years, so much so that birds made nests on his face. His tears brought forth so much grass that it covered his 60 meters long body. (Rahatul Muhibbeen c/o Ameer Khusro. Khwaja Nizamuddin Awlia)

If Awlia (saints) wish, they can accept invitations from 10,000 towns and be there at the same time. (Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi, Malfoozat part I pg 127)

When Shah Waliullah was in his mother’s womb, she said a prayer. Two tiny hands appeared from her belly for prayer. She was frightened. Her husband said, "You have Qutubul Aqtab (Saint of Saints) in your womb. (Mullah Ashraf Ali Thanwi, Hikayaat-e-Awlia pg 17).

Allah revealed Himself to me as an extremely beautiful, irresistible woman, adorned with fine ornaments and see-through garments. She suddenly embraced me and merged into my body. (Shah Waliullah, Anfasul Arifain pg 94-95).

The sun cannot rise before greeting me. The new year, the new month, the new day, cannot dawn without greeting me and informing me of every single event. (Malfoozat Ahmad Raza Barelwi about the exhumed ‘Ghaus Azam’ Abdul Qadir Jeelani)

Shah Waliullah believed in the Unity of Being. He believed that insects, animals, idols and human beings were all God.
(Syed Farooq Al-Qadri, Anfasul Arifain)

Allah has only 99 virtuous names. I have more than 99, in fact 4000.(Shah Waliullah quoting his uncle, Anfasul Arifain pg 210)

Some people told Shah Abdur Raheem (Shah Waliullah’s father) that they were trying to find God. My father said, “I am He!” They stood up and shook hands.
(Shah Waliullah quoting his uncle,Anfasul Arifain, pg 93). Why didn’t they prostrate?

God came to me in a cloak in the guise of an extremely beautiful woman. I became passionate and said, “Cast aside your cloak.” The response came, “The cloak is very thin. It reveals my beauty.” I insisted, upon which the cloak was lifted. (Quote of father and son, Shah Abdur Raheem & Shah Waliullah, Anfasul Arifain pg 94)

Sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani claimed: Allah has made me Eternal and has joined me with Him. He has given in my hand this world and the Hereafter and all Creation. (Jeelani, Malfoozat Fuyuz Yazdani, Fath-e-Rabb-ani, Majlis 51)

Prophet David and Prophet Muhammad pbuh both sinned because they saw the beauty of unclothed women. Then Uriah’s wife and Zaid’s wife became Haram (forbidden) for their husbands. (Ali Hajweri, alias “Daata Ganj Baksh,” the Giver of Treasures, Kalamil Marghoob pg 349)

Junaid Baghdadi said that Prophet Solomon was the illegitimate son of David from Uriah’s wife. Sheik Seereen wrote that Surah Ahzab of the Quran means to say that Muhammad (pbuh) was hiding the carnal love of Zainab (the wife of Zaid), in his heart. (Malfoozal Al-‘Asl pg 219)

A wife of the Prophet (pbuh) saw a male sparrow mounting the female sparrow. She challenged the Prophet. When the night set in, the Prophet mounted her in a most furious manner 90 times and said, “See! There is no deficiency here.”
(Shamsuddin Akhlaqi, Manaqib-il-Arifain pg 70-71). We

Ba-Yazeed Bustami, supposedly the head of all saints, is quoted in his Malfoozat, the book of narratives:


- I am Glorious, the Ultimate, the Pure. My Glory is beyond description. (Nauzibilla)
- My Kingdom is greater than the Kingdom of God. (Nauzibilla)
- Allah is in my pocket. (Nauzibilla)
- My flag flies higher than the flag of Muhammad (pbuh). (Nauzibilla)
- I dived into the sea of Knowledge while the Prophets watched by the shore.

Ref: Ali Hajweri, “Daata Ganj Bakhsh,” in his Kashfil Mahjoob, pg 255-256 supports Ba-Yazeed Bustami's claim that he was God in human form.


Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti Ajmeri taught his disciples a different Kalema (Creed) “There is no god but Allah and Chishti is His Messenger.”
(Khwaja Fareed-ud-Din Ganj Shakar, Fawaed-us-Saalikeen pg 126-127)

Now, what message is Sheikh Afeef-ud-Din Talmisani trying to convey when he says:
The Quran is loaded with Shirk (idolatry, polytheism). True
Monotheism is that everything in the universe is God.
(Malfoozat Talmisani pg 205)

It was right for the Pharaoh to say, “I am God”. He, of course, was a part of the Essence of God. (Malfoozat Talmisani pg 205)

Ibraheem Adham reached the Ka’bah in 14 years because he prayed two nawafil (units of physical prayer) at every step. But the Ka’bah was not there! A voice came from the heavens, "It has gone to visit Rabia Basri.” (Malfoozat Khwaja Uthman Harooni, Aneesul Arwah pg 17).

Ba-Yazid Bustami could take the soul of any person whenever he wanted. My uncle Abu Raza Muhammad, upon hearing this became very upset and said, “Ba-Yazid could not return the soul and restore life. I can take a soul and return it as I want.” Then my uncle took the soul of Rahmatullah Kafshdoze and brought him back to life. (Shah Waliullah, Anfasul Afrifain pg 95)

It is obligatory upon a mu’min (believer) that he quits eating and drinking. He must get weak to the point where he becomes unable to pray. (Sahl bin
Abdullah Tastari, Malfoozat Arabi pg 289)

Hazrat Sha’raani was the Sheikh of miracles. He resided in a meadow and used to visit the town riding a wolf. He walked on water. His urine was drinkable like pure milk. (Allama Tareshi’s excerpts, Misra’ Tasawwuf pg 194).

Jalaluddin Rumi never prayed. When the time for prayers came he used to vanish. At last, it was discovered that he used to pray in the Ka’bah -2000
miles away from Quniah, five times a day.
(Khwaja Nizamuddin Awlia, Raahat-il-Quloob).

My uncle saw me create and destroy the universe. (Shah Waliullah, Afasul Arifain pg 210)

Once there was a Sheikh who used to grab a dog every day and put him on the prayer rug and said, “O dog, you are in the hands of God!” Those dogs then started walking on water and healed people by giving them Ta’weez (amulets). (Qutubuddin Bakhtiar Kaki, Malfoozat)

The dead body of a dervish was lying in a jungle laughing. I asked him, “You are dead. How can you laugh?” The dead body replied, “This is what happens in the love of Allah.” (Khwaja Ghareeb Nawaz, Moinuddin Chishti Ajmeri, Malfoozat)

The Universe lies within Koh Qaaf (the Mount Caucasus). This mountain is 40 times bigger than the earth. A cow is holding it on its head.(Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti, Dalilul Arifain).

The people of Multan refused to provide fire to Shah Shams Tabrez for roasting meat. He became enraged, brought the sun down and roasted the meat. As people became restless with heat, they came to the saint and asked his forgiveness and then he ordered the sun to go back. Since that day, the town became known for its hot summers. (Ali Quli Baghdadi, Karamaat Shah Tabrez pg 233)

Ibraheem Adham was the governor of Balakh. While hunting, a deer turned back and scolded him. Since that day, Adham quit his throne and became a
saint.
(“Daata” Ganj Bakhsh, the Giver of Treasures, Kalamil Marghoob pg 229)

When the companions went with the Prophet for Ghazwaat (battles), some of their wives had sex with other men. (Mullah Jalaluddin Rumi, Feeh-Ma-
Feeh, Saleem Chishti, Islami Tasawwuf pg 66).

There was a 140 year old worshipper. He had an amputated foot. When asked, he said, “I was in I’tikaaf (seclusion for worship in a Masjid). I stepped one foot out. An angel warned me, and I immediately cut off my foot with a knife.” (Moinuddin Chishti Ajmeri in Malfoozat Uthman Harooni)

A man stole shrouds from graves for 40 years, but he went to the highest degree in Paradise.Why? Because he held on to the prayer rug (he prayed all the time). (Malfoozat Khwaja Moinuddin Chishti Ajmeri, by Khwaja Qutub Alam, Daleel Arifain)
 
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babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
What I understand is that you dont think music is haram and you are just worried about the wrong usage. I agree with you about wrong usage about music and if any one does any shirk or wrong deed under veil of sufi music then it not right.

I didnt understand what you mean by lahwol Hadees which is your last two lines.

I do not accept the "terminology" as "Sufi Music". There is no such thing Sufi Music, Muslim Music,
Kafir Music, Hanfi Music, the best it can be like, Pakistani Music, Brazilian Music, American Music etc. etc.
Mine objection is that people wish to joom around on some tunes and they term it Sufi-Music. One does
not need the "Music" to spread "Deen" (at least Islam Deen). Therefore for my music is just music
for the amusement of people, there is nothing haraam or halal. The worst scenario is that people
wish to justify music by introducing religious poetry into it and then terming it something "spiritual"
"Lahwol Hadees" is a quranic word and some ulema, specially Late Moudadi explained that
music or instruments of music are included into it.
 
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Cheeko

Minister (2k+ posts)
I do not accept the "terminology" as "Sufi Music". There is no such thing Sufi Music, Muslim Music,
Kafir Music, Hanfi Music, the best it can be like, Pakistani Music, Brazilian Music, American Music etc. etc.
Mine objection is that people wish to joom around on some tunes and they term it Sufi-Music. One does
not need the "Music" to spread "Deen" (at least Islam Deen). Therefore for my music is just music
for the amusement of people, there is nothing haraam or halal. The worst scenario is that people
wish to justify music by introducing religious poetry into it and then terming it something "spiritual"
"Lahwol Hadees" is a quranic word and some ulema, specially Late Moudadi explained that
music or instruments of music are included into it.

Thats up to you brother if you dont accept any terminology. Its upto you that you dont accept Hadees. Today world know it as sufi music so its sufi music. As long as you have no problem with sufi music as haram then we have not much difference on this topic. So no reason for we to argue and discuss as discussion is about haram and not haram.
 

babadeena

Minister (2k+ posts)
Thats up to you brother if you dont accept any terminology. Its upto you that you dont accept Hadees. Today world know it as sufi music so its sufi music. As long as you have no problem with sufi music as haram then we have not much difference on this topic. So no reason for we to argue and discuss as discussion is about haram and not haram.
Fair Enough.

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Imran Khan is the best (no doubt).
 
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