Is Marriage without Wali Legal in Islam? Yes.

[Hunter1]

I have only one Islam, and that is in the Quran only. I know, you prefer men-made ahadith over the Quran, that is why you are a lost soul.

before calling another lost soul, you should look at your own self who does not even know the concept of wudu.

 

[Wake up Pak]

before calling another lost soul, you should look at your own self who does not even know the concept of wudu.

Reason to defend him? Where does this wudu thing come from in this thread?

 

[Bubber Shair]

tu apna shobaz ka gand saf kar kutay. tujay scholars kay respect ka kia pata?
tujay yahi zaban samaj ati hai!

جو سکالر ہے اس کو لکھ دیا تھا مگر ایسے بے ہودہ انسان تیرے جیسے جاہل بے ہودہ لوگوں کا ہی سکالر بن سکتا ہے

 

[jani1]

follow logic not the majority, in Pakistan where there are so many forced marriages obviously the girls are going to run away

probably u do not know. tht forced marriage is haram.
wali the girl n the boy all of thm should be agreeing or else the nikkah won't be valid.

 

[Bubber Shair]

how brother ?
simple answer is NO...
bcz the majority is against it..
n minority is in favor of it.

بعض اوقات لڑکی یتیم ہوتی ہے کوی بھای یا چچا تایا بھی نہیں ہوتے اس صورت میں قاضی بھی اس کا ولی بن سکتا ہے لیکن اگر ولی نہ تو پھر بھی نکاح تو ہو ہی جاتا ہے

 

[asadqudsi]

Marriage in Islam : Offer , acceptance, and mehr. 2 witnesses to confirm above.

Marriage in Hinduism and Pakistan: Khandan, zaicha, caste, jehaz, 1500 customs before and 1500 after, all kinds of hurdles at the pretext that we are guaranteeing a good match (and pretty much every one was and is miserable after marriage) .

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

Marriage in Islam : Offer , acceptance, and mehr. 2 witnesses to confirm above.

Marriage in Hinduism and Pakistan: Khandan, zaicha, caste, jehaz, 1500 customs before and 1500 after, all kinds of hurdles at the pretext that we are guaranteeing a good match (and pretty much every one was and is miserable after marriage) .

Spot on mate, just brilliant.

Wow..

 

[akinternational]

By the way larkian un gharoun se bhagte hain jahan aap jaise soch ho, Jahan illogical Fatwa gun baap ne 24 ghante uthae hui ho. Larkiyoun ko property samjha jata ho. Jahan yeh socha jata ho keh Khandan ke bahar shadi ke tou economic interests suffer hun ge aur Property share karne pare ge.

Baqi ghar jahan Izhar e Rai pe pabandi nahin wahan aise masle nahin hote. Salah o Mashware hote hain aur sab hal ho jata hai.

Little Knowles is a dangerous thing. 15 saal ki dua per waliden kya zulm kiye.... are mian agar apko gher islami western culture pasand hai to apni maan behen beti biwi ke liye apply karen... unhaain zina aur bhagne ki azadi de den lakin tamam muslim ummah ko kyun manwane ki koshish kar rahe hain...

 

[akinternational]

Koi Aqal ghass charne gayi hai aap ke?

I explained choose the lesser evil!
Kia zina bara gunah hai? Ya waledain ke marzi ke baghair nikah karna?

Ans: Zina bara gunah hai aur haraam hai.

Baqi bhagne ka relation har kisi ke personal matters se hai. Koi abusive baap se bhagte hai tou koi woh shadi nahin karna chahte jo maan baap zabardasti karwana chahte hain.

Daqyanoosi soch ko chor dain aur women ko property samajna bhi.

Warna phir society main Marvi Sarmad, Asma Jahangir jaise Nasoor janam lete hain.

janab pehle baat karne ki tameez sikh lijiye baad men arasto banye.... 15 saal ki dua per waliden kya zulm kiye.... yahan personal nahain collective problem hai... pehle begharti hori hai begherta larka aur behaya alrki ke talluqat hote hain phir zina hota hai phir larki ghar se sab izzat barbad kar ke bhagti hai phir ijtemai zina hota hai phir paisha karne per lagaya jata hai...
jise ye awargi pasand ho wo apni maan behen beti aur biwi per apply kare.
marvi aur asma jaisi hifi randiyon ki koi ahmiyyat nahin

 

[akinternational]

follow logic not the majority, in Pakistan where there are so many forced marriages obviously the girls are going to run away

deen aur qanoon men koi LOGIC nahin... begherat dua ko 15 saal men kya shadi ki aag lagi thi????? kua uski koi forced marriage karrah tha????
mozu hai larki ka ghar se bhagna!!!!!!

 

[Hunter1]

deen aur qanoon men koi LOGIC nahin... begherat dua ko 15 saal men kya shadi ki aag lagi thi????? kua uski koi forced marriage karrah tha????
mozu hai larki ka ghar se bhagna!!!!!!

yea fitno ka daur hy yahan sach or jhoot ka kuch bhe nahi pata, Dua keh rahe hy us ky maa baap us ke zabardasti shadi kara rahay thay for property,
phir dua ky dad ny aik ilzaam lagaya tha ky masjid walo ny maslak ke wajah sy bachi ke gumshudgi ka ailaan bhe nahi kia baad main pata chala yea ilzam ghalat tha, main bhe hairan tha koi c masjid wala aisa ailaan nahi karay ga,

phir cc tv ka bhe ilzam laga ya ky building walay cc tv ke footage nahi dy rahay, halanky ain ko andaza tha ky larki bhagi bhe ho skte hy

Bhai Sahab Quran pr bhe ghoor krny ka hukum hy , blind follow to kisi ko bhe nahi krna,

in case of Dua , i am not at all with Dua's decision but i am also not going to blindly follow dua's parrents

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

janab pehle baat karne ki tameez sikh lijiye baad men arasto banye.... 15 saal ki dua per waliden kya zulm kiye.... yahan personal nahain collective problem hai... pehle begharti hori hai begherta larka aur behaya alrki ke talluqat hote hain phir zina hota hai phir larki ghar se sab izzat barbad kar ke bhagti hai phir ijtemai zina hota hai phir paisha karne per lagaya jata hai...
jise ye awargi pasand ho wo apni maan behen beti aur biwi per apply kare.
marvi aur asma jaisi hifi randiyon ki koi ahmiyyat nahin

Tumhara asal agenda Nikah Mushkil aur Zina Asan karna hai.

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

yea fitno ka daur hy yahan sach or jhoot ka kuch bhe nahi pata, Dua keh rahe hy us ky maa baap us ke zabardasti shadi kara rahay thay for property,
phir dua ky dad ny aik ilzaam lagaya tha ky masjid walo ny maslak ke wajah sy bachi ke gumshudgi ka ailaan bhe nahi kia baad main pata chala yea ilzam ghalat tha, main bhe hairan tha koi c masjid wala aisa ailaan nahi karay ga,

phir cc tv ka bhe ilzam laga ya ky building walay cc tv ke footage nahi dy rahay, halanky ain ko andaza tha ky larki bhagi bhe ho skte hy

Bhai Sahab Quran pr bhe ghoor krny ka hukum hy , blind follow to kisi ko bhe nahi krna,

in case of Dua , i am not at all with Dua's decision but i am also not going to blindly follow dua's parrents

Totally agree with you, not supporting her actions, but using logic is also key.

 

[akinternational]

Tumhara asal agenda Nikah Mushkil aur Zina Asan karna hai.

ghar se behen beti ka bhagna nikah asan karna hai to janab aap kijiye muslamanon ko bkhsh den to nawazish.... apni behen beti per ye usul lagu kren ham per nahin... ap jaise log western begherati ko aam karna chahte hain lekin ham ne pakistan iss liye nahin banaya... behes ki zarurat nahin

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

ghar se behen beti ka bhagna nikah asan karna hai to janab aap kijiye muslamanon ko bkhsh den to nawazish.... apni behen beti per ye usul lagu kren ham per nahin... ap jaise log western begherati ko aam karna chahte hain lekin ham ne pakistan iss liye nahin banaya

Tum ne kiya Pakistan apni behan betiyan ache Mool pe bechne ke liye banaya tha? Janwar hain kiya woh? Kia Dua ke baap ke tarah beti ka rishta DHA plot ke badle dene ki liye banaya tha? O thore tou sharam kar lo. Allah ke azab se daro, yeh tum jaise loug hote hain jo betiyun ke rishte iss liye nahin karte keh kal ko jaidad main hissa dena pare ga.

Aur agar bete ka rishta karna bhi par jaye tou sub se pehle jaidad apne Puttar ke naam karte hain keh kal ko apne husband ke saath aa ke Bete Wirasat na mang le.

Aur phir jab borhe aur bemar hote hain tou sab se pehle apni bete he khidmat karne aate hai.

 

[Hunter1]

Tum ne kiya Pakistan apni behan betiyan ache Mool pe bechne ke liye banaya tha? Janwar hain kiya woh? Kia Dua ke baap ke tarah beti ka rishta DHA plot ke badle dene ki liye banaya tha? O thore tou sharam kar lo. Allah ke azab se daro, yeh tum jaise loug hote hain jo betiyun ke rishte iss liye nahin karte keh kal ko jaidad main hissa dena pare ga.

Aur agar bete ka rishta karna bhi par jaye tou sub se pehle jaidad apne Puttar ke naam karte hain keh kal ko apne husband ke saath aa ke Bete Wirasat na mang le.

Aur phir jab borhe aur bemar hote hain tou sab se pehle apni bete he khidmat karne aate hai.

hum Pakistani agay ka nahi soochtay , lakir peetna shru kr daytay hain, dua ka interview bhe aa gaya, aab agay ka soochain
ais main koi shak nahi ky rishta hum palla nahi tha maagr aab rishta qabool karain larky ky ghar jain us ky ghar walo sy milain, make sure karain baiti waqai khush rah rahe hy ya nahi,
yea jo loog batain kr rahay hain, jub larkia pub g khaelte hain wahan dostian krte hain us waqat kuch nahi kehtay , jub bhag jain to deen imaan suub yaad aa jata hy,

larke ka boycott krna haal nahi, agar larka ya us ky ghar walay waqai buray loog huay to phir vo bachi or mushkil main aa jae ge,

again sach kia hy or jhoot kia kuch pata nahi , Allah hum suub ke maghfirat farmai or hum pr reham farmai aamin

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

hum Pakistani agay ka nahi soochtay , lakir peetna shru kr daytay hain, dua ka interview bhe aa gaya, aab agay ka soochain
ais main koi shak nahi ky rishta hum palla nahi tha maagr aab rishta qabool karain larky ky ghar jain us ky ghar walo sy milain, make sure karain baiti waqai khush rah rahe hy ya nahi,
yea jo loog batain kr rahay hain, jub larkia pub g khaelte hain wahan dostian krte hain us waqat kuch nahi kehtay , jub bhag jain to deen imaan suub yaad aa jata hy,

larke ka boycott krna haal nahi, agar larka ya us ky ghar walay waqai buray loog huay to phir vo bachi or mushkil main aa jae ge,

again sach kia hy or jhoot kia kuch pata nahi , Allah hum suub ke maghfirat farmai or hum pr reham farmai aamin

Exactly, lakeer petne ka kiya faida.

Apni bete ka Support network tou khatam na karian. In case woh larka ya uss ke ghar wale bure loug hue tou phir woh support lene kahan jaye ge.

Totally agree with your points. Childish mentality shown by her parents.

 

[Hunter1]

Exactly, lakeer petne ka kiya faida.

Apni bete ka Support network tou khatam na karian. In case woh larka ya uss ke ghar wale bure loug hue tou phir woh support lene kahan jaye ge.

Totally agree with your points. Childish mentality shown by her parents.

asal main sare fasad ke jarh hy humari mentality ky sara kasoor larke ha hy, us larky pr kisi ny koi ungli nahi uthai,

izzat ke zimmay dari larke pr hy larky pr nahi, hum ny yea maan lia hy larka to hy he izzat lootny ky leyain, larki ko he daba kr rakho, larky ko kuch na sekhao,

yahan bhe issue yea he hy ky izaat matti main mila de bhag kr shade kr ky,

koi to wajah hy ky larki bhagi hy , yaqeen kro main to itna dukho tha ais issue main dil sy duain maangta tha

humain as a nation yea baat samghna ho ge ky larki ko apni izzat ka khayal krna chayea no doubt magar larkoo ko bhe har larki ke izzat ke rakhwali krni ho ge sirf apno maa behan beyti tuk limited nahi

 

[Rocky Khurasani]

asal main sare fasad ke jarh hy humari mentality ky sara kasoor larke ha hy, us larky pr kisi ny koi ungli nahi uthai,

izzat ke zimmay dari larke pr hy larky pr nahi, hum ny yea maan lia hy larka to hy he izzat lootny ky leyain, larki ko he daba kr rakho, larky ko kuch na sekhao,

yahan bhe issue yea he hy ky izaat matti main mila de bhag kr shade kr ky,

koi to wajah hy ky larki bhagi hy , yaqeen kro main to itna dukho tha ais issue main dil sy duain maangta tha

humain as a nation yea baat samghna ho ge ky larki ko apni izzat ka khayal krna chayea no doubt magar larkoo ko bhe har larki ke izzat ke rakhwali krni ho ge sirf apno maa behan beyti tuk limited nahi

Everyone in Pakistan was worried about Dua.
Shukar hai keh zinda mil gaye.
Worst case scenario was a dead body in a ditch.
Laiken Allah ka khas karam tha, keh zinda hai aur khairiyat se hai.

 

[akinternational]

Tum ne kiya Pakistan apni behan betiyan ache Mool pe bechne ke liye banaya tha? Janwar hain kiya woh? Kia Dua ke baap ke tarah beti ka rishta DHA plot ke badle dene ki liye banaya tha? O thore tou sharam kar lo. Allah ke azab se daro, yeh tum jaise loug hote hain jo betiyun ke rishte iss liye nahin karte keh kal ko jaidad main hissa dena pare ga.

Aur agar bete ka rishta karna bhi par jaye tou sub se pehle jaidad apne Puttar ke naam karte hain keh kal ko apne husband ke saath aa ke Bete Wirasat na mang le.

Aur phir jab borhe aur bemar hote hain tou sab se pehle apni bete he khidmat karne aate hai.

janab ap to khurasani hain apko pakistan se kya lena dena.... asl mozu hai larki ka ghar se bhagna.... kisi bhi haal men larki ko yariyan karne harami larkon se milne ashnai karne ki ijazat nahin.... deen men na muashre men... bhagne ki baat to baad ki hai... haan begherat aur deen se door munafiq randiyaan aur dallal "azadi e niswan aur mera jism meri marzi" ke naam per shaitaniyat ko farogh de raaahe hain.... apni maan behen aur beti ko becho aur bhagne do.sari qom kyun tumhari begherati per amal kare