آصف زرداری نے شہباز شریف کو وزیراعظم کا امیدوار نامزد کر دیا

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حکومت کے خلاف اپوزیشن کی عدم اعتماد کی تحریک کے حوالے سے ن لیگ اور پیپلزپارٹی میں ڈیڈ لاک تاحال دور نہیں ہوسکا ہے۔

رپورٹ کے مطابق تحریک عدم اعتماد کے معاملے پر ن لیگ اور پیپلزپارٹی میں اتفاق رائے پیدا نہیں ہوسکا ہے جس کے بعد صورتحال ابھی بھی بے یقینی کا شکار ہے۔ پی پی پہلے اسپیکر کے خلاف تحریک عدم اعتماد لانا چاہتی ہے مگر ن لیگ وزیراعظم کے خلاف تحریک لانے پر بضد ہے۔

رپورٹ کے مطابق پیپلزپارٹی عدم اعتماد کی کامیابی کے بعد بقیہ مدت کیلئے ایک عبوری حکومت کے قیام کی تجویز دے رہی ہے جبکہ ن لیگ اس حکومت کے خاتمے کے بعد اسمبلیاں تحلیل کرواکے فوری عام انتخابات منعقد کروانے کی خواہاں ہیں۔


یہ بھی خبریں زیر گردش ہیں کہ بلاول بھٹو نے مطالبہ کیا کہ میرے لانگ مارچ کے اختتام تک تحریک عدم اعتماد پیش نہ کی جائے۔ واضح رہے کپ پیپلز پارٹی کے مطابق بلاول کا لانگ مارچ 8 مارچ کو اسلام آباد میں اختتام پذیر ہو گا۔

ملاقات کے دوران آصف زرداری نے شہباز شریف سے مکالمہ کرتے ہوئے کہا کوئی کچھ بھی کہے ہمارے وزیراعظم کے امیدوار آپ ہیں۔ اپوزیشن جماعتوں نے وزیراعظم کے خلاف تحریک عدم اعتماد لانے کا ٹاسک آصف علی زرداری کے سپرد کر دیا ہے۔


مشاورت کے دوران پیپلزپارٹی نے سب سے پہلے قومی اسمبلی کے اسپیکرکے خلاف عدم اعتماد کی تحریک جمع کروانے کی تجویز دی ہے اور موقف اپنایا ہے کہ اسپیکر کے خلاف تحریک کے نتائج سے صورتحال واضح ہوجائے گی۔

رپورٹ میں ذرائع کا حوالہ دے کر بتایا گیا ہے کہ آئندہ چند روز میں اسپیکر قومی اسمبلی کے خلاف تحریک عدم اعتماد جمع کروانے کا امکان ہے۔

واضح رہے کہ گزشتہ روز مسلم لیگ ن ، پیپلزپارٹی کی قیادت اور جمیعت علمائے اسلام کے رہنماؤں کی ایک بیٹھک ہوئی تھی جس میں مختلف امور پر تبادلہ خیال کیا گیا تاہم یہ ملاقات بے نتیجہ ثابت ہوئی۔

دوسری جانب کچھ میڈیا ہاؤسز کی جانب سے دعویٰ کیا جا رہا ہے کہ اپوزیشن کے درمیان وزیراعظم کے خلاف تحریک عدم اعتماد لانے پر اتفاق ہو چکا ہے۔
 
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LeanMean2

Senator (1k+ posts)
Mr. Awan . We need something substantial rather than cosmetic change . People have tried PMLN for many years . They also finished trying PPP and they already have seen the result of the change they were hoping will make this country and their lives better.

None of these morons are able to fulfill their promises of making people's life better.
People have bitter experience from Politicians. What we have seen in last 4 years is a disgrace of the politicians , their behavior and their attitude , either from the Government side or from the opposition side. The people of this country are most unfortunate in the world. They have been made fool many times, ripped off with their dignity and their respect , not only by Politicians, not only by boots but also from the corrupt Judiciary and the Bureaucracy .

Trying to find a hope of any betterment from this group of wolfs is just straight stupidity.

اسی امید پر تو جی رہے ہیں ہجر کے مارے
کبھی تو رخ سے اٹھے گی نقاب آہستہ آہستہ
 
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Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
https://www.statista.com/statistics/383760/inflation-rate-in-pakistan/
If inflation is the criteria then PMLQ under Musharraf was way better than PMLN.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/383739/gross-domestic-product-gdp-in-pakistan/
Please check the historical trend and see who was ruling during 90% where no gain over couple of years?

For me stock market is nothing more than a gambling place so will not discuss it.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/383735/unemployment-rate-in-pakistan/
Don't u think PMLQ under Musharraf was performing great? Also 2019-22 is the covid period and the trends are same all over the world.

Total Installed capacity in Pakistan was 37K MWe and Transmission Capacity left by PMLN was 23K MWe. Peak consumption in Summer is 27MWe and 16MWe in winter.
Please enlighten us how to avoid circular debt especially based on the contracts signed by PMLN/PPP/Musharraf?

What was US claim in Drone attacks in Pakistan? BTW how many drone attacks during the present government?

https://tradingeconomics.com/pakistan/foreign-direct-investment
Please check and see in which era FDI was more in Pakistan from 2000-2022?

Already explained and want ur help to minimize circular debt based on PMLN/PPP/Musharraf contracts.

Orange Train/ Metros built by PMLN requires huge subsidy. Orange Train is not covering even Power Bill through fare and Punjab's 85% transport Budget is used to subsidized Orange Train alone.
Keep in mind Metros were operated by Turkish Companies means Pakistan was the only country from whole world where a Public service was provided on Subsidy through Private company and above all a foreign company. Same for Lahore cleaning through Turkish company.
Please compare construction cost of Motorways built by PMLN vs PTI

Please share list of Hospitals built by PMLN and named one where Shareefs can be treated?

Universities announced vs built by Nawaz Shareef? BTW which university was built by PMLN?

I completely agree with you. PMLN has just stories but no data to support their claims.

very poetic,...but if you dont mind me saying so, doesn't move the debate forward...
Don't get me wrong, I don't have a magic wand either ?

But there has to be a way forward...late now, perhaps we can continue the debate some other day.....
Here is complete list of health care reforms and hospitals builds
https://dnd.com.pk/progress-of-punj...ears-against-the-health-manifesto-2013/142824
Your link verifies that PML(N) left inflation at 3.9%
Your list verifies that PML(N) left GDP just under 6%
In unemployment you are right I was mistaken
CPEC investment in members and project can be checked on CPEC government of Pakistan website. It looks like 45 Billion were not counted in direct investment
PM Khan went to China to re-negotiate all contracts of CPEC power & road projects and Assad Umar Finance Minister of that time clarified in media that all misunderstandings are settled.

Drone attack ended at the end of PML(N) era, why would they restart in PTI era, same with daily basis bomb blasts.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Where did I say they are free of impairments ?
My concern is that you are too optimistic and think that PMLN will turn the tie around . I think it is farce ... Continue to try the same method and expecting a different result is insanity . What PMLN and its leadership has done in last 4 years is also pretty shameful, to say the least .
Just in the matter of extending the COAS term itself speaks volumes about their mentality and their steadfastness. They are not trustworthy on their words and deeds.
If PTI has done worse than PML(N) era then what is the point of trying them again. I have given all comparison here.
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NS wasn't disqualified for just the Aqama, he lied to the SC. Why is he living in the very flats you guys and him have always claimed weren't his.
As far as the establishment is concerned, you and you reps tell us IK has pissed them off and they want him out. Are you now saying that you were lying? I am really confused with your lies
Disqualification details as under:
three judges said Aqama and disqualification not staying Sadiq & Ameen
Two judges said that PM's speech on flour of assembly was a lie
There is no mention of corruption charges in that decision
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If PTI has done worse than PML(N) era then what is the point of trying them again. I have given all comparison here.
Who are asking to try them again ? But at the same token , why would someone try these untrustworthy PMLN leadership also ? Give me some logic to try same lot. Last 4 years also proved them as inefficient as well.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Disqualification details as under:
three judges said Aqama and disqualification not staying Sadiq & Ameen
Two judges said that PM's speech on flour of assembly was a lie
There is no mention of corruption charges in that decision
Not Sadiq and Ameen for a PM is enough on its own. But Forget Noora media cell, download the actual judgement and quote the relevant passages. And BTW why did he have an Aqama and be honest otherwise you are going to get a volley from me.
 

Sar phra Dewanah

Senator (1k+ posts)
‏عمران خان کا سحر ختم کروانا ہیں تو اس سے بہتر لانا ہوگا. جو کہ اس کا پائے کا لیڈر اس وقت پاکستان میں تو کیا پورے امت مسلمہ میں نہیں ہیں۔۔

لیکن اگر اس کے مقابلے میں زرداری،نواز شریف اور فضل الرحمان جیسے لوگ ہوں تو اگلے الیکشن میں کیا اس سے اگلے بلکہ اس سے بھی اگلے الیکشن میں اسے ہرا نہیں سکتے۔​

 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
NS wasn't disqualified for just the Aqama, he lied to the SC. Why is he living in the very flats you guys and him have always claimed weren't his.
As far as the establishment is concerned, you and you reps tell us IK has pissed them off and they want him out. Are you now saying that you were lying? I am really confused with your lies
Disqualification details as under:
three judges said Aqama and disqualification not staying Sadiq & Ameen
Two judges said that PM's speech on flour of assembly was a lie
There is no mention of corruption charges in that decision
 

Siberite

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
‏عمران خان کا سحر ختم کروانا ہیں تو اس سے بہتر لانا ہوگا. جو کہ اس کا پائے کا لیڈر اس وقت پاکستان میں تو کیا پورے امت مسلمہ میں نہیں ہیں۔۔

لیکن اگر اس کے مقابلے میں زرداری،نواز شریف اور فضل الرحمان جیسے لوگ ہوں تو اگلے الیکشن میں کیا اس سے اگلے بلکہ اس سے بھی اگلے الیکشن میں اسے ہرا نہیں سکتے۔​


اتنی نہ بڑھا پاکی داماں کی حکایت
دامن کو ذرا دیکھ ، ذرا بند قبا دیکھ


 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
Not Sadiq and Ameen for a PM is enough on its own. But Forget Noora media cell, download the actual judgement and quote the relevant passages. And BTW why did he have an Aqama and be honest otherwise you are going to get a volley from me.
آپ نے نہیں ماننا تو نا مانیں مجھے کہیں کوئی جگہ کوئی فیصلے کی کاپی دکھا دیں جہاں یہ لکھا ہو نہ اہلی کرپشن پر ہوئی -اگر پاکستانی میڈیا پر یقین نہیں تو انٹرنیشنل میڈیا ہی دکھا دیں - آپ کے اپنے چینل آر وائی کی خبر ہی دکھا دیں - دنیا نیوز دکھا دیں جنگ جیو کو چھوڑیں


 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
آپ نے نہیں ماننا تو نا مانیں مجھے کہیں کوئی جگہ کوئی فیصلے کی کاپی دکھا دیں جہاں یہ لکھا ہو نہ اہلی کرپشن پر ہوئی -اگر پاکستانی میڈیا پر یقین نہیں تو انٹرنیشنل میڈیا ہی دکھا دیں - آپ کے اپنے چینل آر وائی کی خبر ہی دکھا دیں - دنیا نیوز دکھا دیں جنگ جیو کو چھوڑیں


These aren't the full verdict and even they say he was disqualified for being dishonest. And that is a fact, the haraami stands on the steps of the very flats he claimed he didn't own. His daughter told she didn't any property in London, his Son said the rent came from PK. Which of these do you believe?
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
These aren't the full verdict and even they say he was disqualified for being dishonest. And that is a fact, the haraami stands on the steps of the very flats he claimed he didn't own. His daughter told she didn't any property in London, his Son said the rent came from PK. Which of these do you believe?
The full copies do have all the details of proceeding. What lawers said, what documents were presented and judge’s comments. You cannot take couple of lines from it and give it meaning of your choice. The word final verdict is key word where it is summarized in a paragraph telling you what judges decided and what is the reason. No one care about details in 1000 pages full book.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
The full copies do have all the details of proceeding. What lawers said, what documents were presented and judge’s comments. You cannot take couple of lines from it and give it meaning of your choice. The word final verdict is key word where it is summarized in a paragraph telling you what judges decided and what is the reason. No one care about details in 1000 pages full book.
But the Noora narrative is shit. The haraami was disqualified by 5 judges, he lied and lied to the SC. Either put the full judgement up or shut up. The haraami today stands in front of the very flats he claimed he never owned, his son told us the rent came from PK and daughter told us she didn't own any property in London. So tell us which of those were lies? As I said you haraamis are worshippers of the corrupt. And you don't have the balls to admit it.
 

satifhasan

Minister (2k+ posts)
lo yeh kia bat hoi, Marium ki sari umadain dam tor gai.
MArium: "?Aisa nahi ho sakta, abhi zardari or chacha g ki vdo release karti hon, ruk jao bus aik do din"
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
But the Noora narrative is shit. The haraami was disqualified by 5 judges, he lied and lied to the SC. Either put the full judgement up or shut up. The haraami today stands in front of the very flats he claimed he never owned, his son told us the rent came from PK and daughter told us she didn't own any property in London. So tell us which of those were lies? As I said you haraamis are worshippers of the corrupt. And you don't have the balls to admit it.
If it comes to lie only; how many lies Khan has spoken publicly. Last weak, he was seeing that there was more inflation in PPP/PML(N) era; he himself knew it is lie. He said that Pakistan is the cheapest country in the world. He put blames on people without any proof, incorrect misleading number etc.
Khan is a respectful public representatives; so are others. If Khan got 1 cror 70 Lakh votes in 2018 then 1 cror 35 Lakhs were polled to PML(N) too despite leader and many others in jail. It is a trust that you need to built. Khan built a trust of people but he has lost it now. Opposition would have been zero, had Khan performed well and won hearts of people.

It is not end of the world, Khan can come back by winning their trust again. Politics is a long race and you get opportunities both in government and in opposition. Time will tell if Khan do a a responsible person's politics or not. It does not matter that you are in government or opposition; a serious and responsible behavior is required when you are representing millions of people.
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If it comes to lie only; how many lies Khan has spoken publicly. Last weak, he was seeing that there was more inflation in PPP/PML(N) era; he himself knew it is lie. He said that Pakistan is the cheapest country in the world. He put blames on people without any proof, incorrect misleading number etc.
Khan is a respectful public representatives; so are others. If Khan got 1 cror 70 Lakh votes in 2018 then 1 cror 35 Lakhs were polled to PML(N) too despite leader and many others in jail. It is a trust that you need to built. Khan built a trust of people but he has lost it now. Opposition would have been zero, had Khan performed well and won hearts of people.

It is not end of the world, Khan can come back by winning their trust again. Politics is a long race and you get opportunities both in government and in opposition. Time will tell if Khan do a a responsible person's politics or not. It does not matter that you are in government or opposition; a serious and responsible behavior is required when you are representing millions of people.
So a typical haraami response. They stole billions and this is the your only answer is that inflation was artificially managed. Haraami you don't realise the consequences of the lower inflation. You know the over inflated currency destroyed our economy. Our exports are heading towards 40bn and under your haraamis it came down to 23bn..
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If it comes to lie only; how many lies Khan has spoken publicly. Last weak, he was seeing that there was more inflation in PPP/PML(N) era; he himself knew it is lie. He said that Pakistan is the cheapest country in the world. He put blames on people without any proof, incorrect misleading number etc.
Khan is a respectful public representatives; so are others. If Khan got 1 cror 70 Lakh votes in 2018 then 1 cror 35 Lakhs were polled to PML(N) too despite leader and many others in jail. It is a trust that you need to built. Khan built a trust of people but he has lost it now. Opposition would have been zero, had Khan performed well and won hearts of people.

It is not end of the world, Khan can come back by winning their trust again. Politics is a long race and you get opportunities both in government and in opposition. Time will tell if Khan do a a responsible person's politics or not. It does not matter that you are in government or opposition; a serious and responsible behavior is required when you are representing millions of people.
So a typical haraami response. They stole billions and this is the your only answer is that inflation was artificially managed. Haraami you don't realise the consequences of the lower inflation. You know the over inflated currency destroyed our economy. Our exports are heading towards 40bn and under your haraamis it came down to 23bn..
 

Hate_Nooras

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
If it comes to lie only; how many lies Khan has spoken publicly. Last weak, he was seeing that there was more inflation in PPP/PML(N) era; he himself knew it is lie. He said that Pakistan is the cheapest country in the world. He put blames on people without any proof, incorrect misleading number etc.
Khan is a respectful public representatives; so are others. If Khan got 1 cror 70 Lakh votes in 2018 then 1 cror 35 Lakhs were polled to PML(N) too despite leader and many others in jail. It is a trust that you need to built. Khan built a trust of people but he has lost it now. Opposition would have been zero, had Khan performed well and won hearts of people.

It is not end of the world, Khan can come back by winning their trust again. Politics is a long race and you get opportunities both in government and in opposition. Time will tell if Khan do a a responsible person's politics or not. It does not matter that you are in government or opposition; a serious and responsible behavior is required when you are representing millions of people.
BTW
I am waiting for an answer on does NS own those properties or not. Did the rent come from PK or not and does Maryam own those property. You can run but can't hide
 

Awan S

Chief Minister (5k+ posts)
BTW
I am waiting for an answer on does NS own those properties or not. Did the rent come from PK or not and does Maryam own those property. You can run but can't hide
I think Nawaz owns those properties but these were purchased by corruption money is still a question mark. Is two flats a big deal for a billionaire to buy? I own two single family big house (expensive than flats) in a western country, not even millionaire.

Between the lines, I have said that all politicians are corrupt, so are Generals, beuorocraits and everyone else. Why you want only Nawaz pin point? If corruption were an issue Zardari would have not be the best buddy of establishment. Please be practical, don't dig deep into matters you don't understand.

Generals had issues with Nawaz as he was trying to be powerful and bring civil supremacy. Nawaz was in best position to win next elections too, if not interferences were done. In case the let Nawaz win next election too; he would have been more powerful. This was a game of not power sharing in power corridors.